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Apr 11, 2016 6:24 PM in response to ChitlinsCCby babowa,FB "likes" are much different than "Friends" - they ARE indeed a tally of anonymous folks 'liking' (agreeing with) what one has said.
Well, call them what you will - likes or friends - I do not feel the need to get approval for anything from total strangers. They may or may not be someone I would not even want to have a conversation with. The only people on this site who should/can approve something I said are the hosts as it is their site and they are in charge (or disapprove, in which case I'll get a nastygram). I am here to learn and help people, not aggrandizement (that's not really the word I wanted to use, but the English expression I wanted to use escapes me at the moment - more like re-assurance, but that's not really it either).
Of course, Lounge Lizards get to keep their club memberships (it CAN be done, I cannot tell you how I know)
Of course it can. Most anything can. You had given yourself 168,xxx points there for a while (or was it 186,xxx - can't remember).
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Apr 11, 2016 6:42 PM in response to babowaby ChitlinsCC,babowa wrote:
FB "likes" are much different than "Friends" - they ARE indeed a tally of anonymous folks 'liking' (agreeing with) what one has said.
- Well, call them what you will - likes or friends - I do not feel the need to get approval for anything from total strangers.
- They may or may not be someone I would not even want to have a conversation with.
- The only people on this site who should/can approve something I said are the hosts as it is their site and they are in charge (or disapprove, in which case I'll get a nastygram).
- I am here to learn and help people, not aggrandizement (that's not really the word I wanted to use, but the English expression I wanted to use escapes me at the moment - more like re-assurance, but that's not really it either).
Of course, Lounge Lizards get to keep their club memberships (it CAN be done, I cannot tell you how I know)
- Of course it can. Most anything can.
- You had given yourself 168,xxx points there for a while (or was it 186,xxx - can't remember).
Dignifying with a response
- Your fellow members are not strangers for the most part
- we are having a conversation, your start, and we are not "friends"
- The Hosts are "moderators" - it is not their community, though provided by Apple - WE are the community by definition
community ... A group sharing a common understanding and often the same language, manners, tradition and law. - Me too, as are most - the "gamers" are few and far between
state of being aggrandized or exalted in power, rank, honor, or wealth - is that it?
- Can't UNDO a Solvie or a Helpie and Hosts can do most anything here? (you're actually probably right though)
- I did NOT "give myself points" - it was a mistake made by the ES-ASC Hosts (varjak_paw's points to be precise) - they were just learning the ropes of their new maintenance panel, it seems
BTW, I had retracted my statement... so thanks for getting it back into the permanent record!
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Apr 11, 2016 7:38 PM in response to babowaby deggie,That's the problem with criticizing something you have no actual knowledge of. People you don't know can "react" (it is no longer just like) to something you've posted depending on how you have your privacy settings configured but that does not make them your "friend". You have to accept someone's friend request or they have to approve your request. And you can always hide them (I hide my older sister's posts) or unfriend them (I've done this with some groups) as you see fit. If you are finicky about who you accept as friends (I am and I assume you would also be that way) you don't end up with that many friends and a purge is not really necessary.
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Apr 11, 2016 7:46 PM in response to deggieby ChitlinsCC,Perfectly put.
[ make that 2 !! ]
[[ we're on a roll ]]
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Apr 11, 2016 7:49 PM in response to deggieby babowa,I understand your point, but I wasn't really criticizing Facebook as much as I do not care for social media of any kind. As I read the other day, in some European countries, privacy is considered sacrosanct and for me, all this social media stuff is an invasion. So are most of the companies that I may order something from online - unfortunately. But, fortunately, he orders most of the stuff I want, so I don't have to give out my private info.
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Apr 11, 2016 10:34 PM in response to babowaby seventy one,*** so are most of the companies I may order something from on line ***
I bet when they write 'Dear Barbara', or whatever your name is, it makes you bristle; it certainly does me. That's one level of privacy we have lost here. I don't know them from Adam and they address me by my Christian name.
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Apr 12, 2016 8:27 AM in response to seventy oneby babowa,I've become accustomed to it as that appears to be the custom in the US: you are fortunate if they actually use your full first name; in your example: Barbara or, say, Joseph. Most likely, many of the people you meet here will immediately use a shortened version such as 'Barb' or 'Joe'. Very few ask for permission including doctor's offices. About the only place I've been addressed with 'Mrs. last name' was in an attorney's office. In a social setting, quite a few will also call you a 'friend' or 'dear friend' after a 5 - 10 minute initial conversation, which I do not understand. I still cherish the story German friends told me: they were so enamored by the extremely friendly Americans who would say things like "Oh, I just love to hear your stories; we must get together sometime or stop by" that they decided to actually do that: they stopped by someone's house only to find out that that was more of a social and polite chit chat thing and certainly did not expect anyone to actually stop by. On another occasion, they innocently asked which day/time they should show up with the same perplexed reaction. In sharp contrast to German customs: if someone mentions to stop by or get together, they actually mean it because it is a bonafide invitation (or they wouldn't say it) and you ask or are told when would be a good time.
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Apr 12, 2016 9:05 AM in response to babowaby seventy one,Yes; they abbreviate names here, too. Some will call me Michael, others say Mike, others say Mick (worst of all). I put it down to a psychological need to demonstrate you have been accepted as a friend ... especially when they want to impose upon you.
I spent some time in Germany, very happy times in fact, and I know that in those days the German people were just as correct as the English in the way they addressed you. For business, in shops, for services, everyone said Mr unless they had been offered familiaity. One of the best parts of French in those days was the vous / tu differential where you needed to be invited to use the familiar term. All too often the English were frowned upon for using 'tu' incorrectly ... though even in that respect, the familiar is now becoming more familiar (excuse the pun).
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Apr 12, 2016 9:18 AM in response to seventy oneby babowa,They still ask in Germany if it's acceptable to use the more familiar "Du" (which is reserved for friends and family) rather than the universally accepted "Sie" which is used for all strangers and acquaintances; usually the Du is used more by kids/young adults, but even they are taught that one should use the less familiar and more respectful way of addressing any adult. I believe some of the problems simply stem from the fact that the German language/customs really do not allow for social chit chat: there really is no such thing; for instance, in the US, everyone asks "how are you" but really doesn't expect a lengthy dissertation of your medical problems. Whereas in Germany, unless you really do want to hear about the (whatever) problems, it's not customary to ask.
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Apr 12, 2016 9:55 AM in response to seventy oneby ChitlinsCC,Cultural differences, amigo (if I may be that familiar!)
Brits and Texans have taken great liberty with language forever (Byron's Don Juan - "Juan" rhymes only if pronounced " joo uhn ")
At bottom, expectations that anyone will adhere to one's own sense of propriety is doomed to disappointment, I fear. "Judge not lest thee be judged."
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Apr 12, 2016 1:43 PM in response to deggieby ChitlinsCC,'Tis a free Republic of Texas, neighbor
[ 3 now? in one thread! ]
( I have a "ReplyToASC" folder in my email client = MUCH easier to search! )
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Apr 12, 2016 2:17 PM in response to ChitlinsCCby seventy one,I think 'joo whaan' is closer ... but good try ÇÇÇ.
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