cryptid85

Q: Burning Small-Size Files of Long Movies to a Singe Layer Disc

^ That title just rolls off your tongue. In all seriousness I feel a bit puzzled by something on iDVD '09, in fact I've been puzzled by it since its release so some clarification would be much appreciated. Does anyone know why it is that I can easily burn a 2GB movie that's 20 minutes long to a single layer disc, but when I burn a 400MB movie that's 90 minutes long I need a dual layer disc? I don't understand why exactly I need a dual layer disc for a file that is significantly smaller even if the final duration is much longer.

 

Also, does anyone know how burn movies to a DVD without a menu? I feel like I should know this but I don't ^_^

iMovie 2009 and iDVD 2009

Posted on Apr 16, 2016 4:01 PM

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Q: Burning Small-Size Files of Long Movies to a Singe Layer Disc

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  • by Limnos,

    Limnos Limnos Apr 16, 2016 4:13 PM in response to cryptid85
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    Apr 16, 2016 4:13 PM in response to cryptid85

    When you burn a DVD you are changing the coding of the file.  It depends upon your video settings.  If you set them to a high quality they could overrun a single layer disc.

  • by Klaus1,

    Klaus1 Klaus1 Apr 16, 2016 4:29 PM in response to cryptid85
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    Apr 16, 2016 4:29 PM in response to cryptid85

    iDVD encoding settings:

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1502?viewlocale=en_US

     

    Short version:

     

    Best Performance is for videos of up to 60 minutes

     

    Best Quality is for videos of up to 120 minutes

     

    Professional Quality is also for up to 120 minutes but even higher quality (and takes much longer)

     

    That was for single-layer DVDs. Double these numbers for dual-layer DVDs.

     

    Professional Quality: The Professional Quality option uses advanced two-pass technology to encode your video (The first pass determines which parts of the movie can be given greater compresson without quality loss and which parts can’t.  The second pass then encodes those different parts accordingly) , resulting in the best quality of video possible on your burned DVD. You can select this option regardless of your project’s duration (up to 2 hours of video for a single-layer disc and 4 hours for a double-layer disc). Because Professional Quality encoding is time-consuming (requiring about twice as much time to encode a project as the High Quality option, for example) choose it only if you are not concerned about the time taken.

     

    In both cases the maximum length includes titles, transitions and effects etc. Allow about 15 minutes for these.

     

    You can use the amount of video in your project as a rough determination of which method to choose. If your project has an hour or less of video (for a single-layer disc), choose Best Performance. If it has between 1 and 2 hours of video (for a single-layer disc), choose High Quality. If you want the best possible encoding quality for projects that are up to 2 hours (for a single-layer disc), choose Professional Quality. This option takes about twice as long as the High Quality option, so select it only if time is not an issue for you.

    Use the Capacity meter in the Project Info window (choose Project > Project Info) to determine how many minutes of video your project contains.

    NOTE: With the Best Performance setting, you can turn background encoding off by choosing Advanced > “Encode in Background.” The checkmark is removed to show it’s no longer selected. Turning off background encoding can help performance if your system seems sluggish.

     

    And whilst checking these settings in iDVD Preferences, make sure that the settings for NTSC/PAL and DV/DV Widescreen are also what you want.

     

    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1502?viewlocale=en_US

  • by cryptid85,

    cryptid85 cryptid85 Apr 16, 2016 5:17 PM in response to Limnos
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    Apr 16, 2016 5:17 PM in response to Limnos

    Thanks but I seem to have run into a snag. When I change the project setting from Best Performance (in which the long duration movie will be over the disc's storage capacity) to High or Professional, the amount of space used on the disc goes down significantly, however none of the files will encode.

  • by Old Toad,

    Old Toad Old Toad Apr 17, 2016 8:16 AM in response to cryptid85
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    Apr 17, 2016 8:16 AM in response to cryptid85

    Best Performance will pre-encode the media immediately.  When you go to the Project Info pane and change encoding you'll get this window:

    iDVD001.jpg

     

    Next, you need to remove the pre-encoded media via the Advanced ➙ Delete Encoded Assets menu option:

    iDVD002.jpg

     

    Follow this workflow to help assure the best qualty video DVD:

    Once you have the project as you want it save it as a disk image via the File ➙ Save as Disk Image  menu option. This will separate the encoding process from the burn process.

     

    To check the encoding mount the disk image, launch DVD Player and play it.  If it plays OK with DVD Player the encoding is good.

     

    Then burn to disk with Disk Utility or Toast at the slowest speed available (2x-4x) to assure the best burn quality.  Always use top quality media:  Verbatim, Maxell or Taiyo Yuden DVD-R are the most recommended in these forums.

     

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  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Apr 17, 2016 6:16 PM in response to Old Toad
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    Apr 17, 2016 6:16 PM in response to Old Toad

    Always use top quality media:  Verbatim, Maxell or Taiyo Yuden DVD-R are the most recommended in these forums.

     

    Hello OT,

     

    I'm a former user of Taiyo Yuden DVD+R, I've completely switched to M-DISC DVDs and Blu-rays because of its 1000 year life span.  So far, I've burned about 100 with zero problems. Interestingly, M-DISC forces you to burn at 4X ONLY.   I tried a variety of burning applications including Apple's Disk Utilities, Toast and others. In all cases the burn "locks" to 4X.

     

    I guess there must be a method by which the blank disc talks back to the software to burn the proper speed.