dual card setup

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dual card setup

Hi guys, I have a Mac Pro 2008 8 core 2.8ghz 32gb ram running a 1TB RAID 0 El Captian with a 2600XT (APPLE) and a HD5870 ( non APPLE ). My question is how do these cards function ? I want a dual monitor setup, but i also want the boot screen so i can trouble shoot. If i put one tft to one card and the other tft to the other, how will it perform ? Will Photoshop only work better on the screen with the better card ? Sorry but used to SLi in windows. Any help or guidance on this would be most helpful.

thanks

Steve

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.7)

Posted on Apr 29, 2016 2:09 PM

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Answer 1

lllaass

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Apr 29, 2016 2:40 PM in response to Br0K3n T0y

Only a Mac flashed card will show a boot screen. It sounds like the HD5870 is not a Mac flashed card.

Some functions/effects in Photoshop can use a graphics card for processing and thus speed up that function.

The 2600XT is not supported I think and per the following

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1052185

the HD5670 will not help much if any in CS4 and later

The 2600 XT can support two monitors by itself

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Answer 2

Br0K3n T0y Author

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Apr 30, 2016 5:01 AM in response to lllaass

Hi, Thanks for replying. My first post is always garbled and never really gets to my real aim. I know my 5870 does not contain a mac refi, what i mean is in the picture, if i run a graphic based app on the right screen with the HD5870, will i get better performance than if i ran the app on the left screen (2600XT) ?

Or does this not matter as long as the app knows which card to use for extra processing power ?

Thanks

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Answer 3

lllaass

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Apr 30, 2016 9:19 AM in response to Br0K3n T0y

I think graphics output intensive apps like games will perform better when displayed via the 5780 card.

Also see:

http://forums.macresource.com/read.php?1,1216977,1217198

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Answer 4

Br0K3n T0y Author

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May 2, 2016 12:25 PM in response to lllaass

Hi, sorry it took a while, thanks for your reply much appreciated. On another note, my mac is rebooting when i run valley unigine , the fan on the gfx card gradually steps up and after about 5 mins the system blacksreens on one tft and grey stripes on the other then reboots. I don't get any artefacts on screen through daily use and is fine when running photoshop etc the fan is silent. I applied new paste and cleaned out card but still does it. I run the demo on full extreme hd settings. The error report is this is you can make any sense out of it. Thanks to anyone who can shed any light on this.

Anonymous UUID: C9AA10BA-0CDF-5338-1D50-F883277EB1E6

Mon May 2 20:13:52 2016

*** Panic Report ***

Machine-check capabilities: 0x0000000000000806

family: 6 model: 23 stepping: 6 microcode: 1551

signature: 0x10676

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5462 @ 2.80GHz

6 error-reporting banks

Processor 2: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000005

IA32_MC5_STATUS(0x415): 0xb200000084200e0f

Processor 3: IA32_MCG_STATUS: 0x0000000000000005

IA32_MC5_STATUS(0x415): 0xb200000080200e0f

panic(cpu 3 caller 0xffffff801c3ceeca): "Machine Check at 0xffffff7f9e1a9103, registers:\n" "CR0: 0x000000008001003b, CR2: 0x000000014135d000, CR3: 0x000000001fe34000, CR4: 0x0000000000002660\n" "RAX: 0x0000000000000000, RBX: 0xffffff8042a33000, RCX: 0x0000000000000001, RDX: 0xffffff7f9e1c6e20\n" "RSP: 0xffffff8274c43d40, RBP: 0xffffff8274c43d70, RSI: 0x0000000000000001, RDI: 0xffffff7f9e1bdb90\n" "R8: 0xffffff8042a35000, R9: 0xffffff7f9e1be110, R10: 0x000000b13933c2c3, R11: 0x00000000e0000000\n" "R12: 0xffffff8042318740, R13: 0x0000000000000000, R14: 0x0000000000000148, R15: 0x0000000000000001\n" "RFL: 0x0000000000000046, RIP: 0xffffff7f9e1a9103, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010\n" "Error code: 0x0000000000000000\n"@/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/xnu/xnu-3248.40.184 /osfmk/i386/trap_native.c:168

Backtrace (CPU 3), Frame : Return Address

0xffffff826a48de90 : 0xffffff801c2dab12

0xffffff826a48df10 : 0xffffff801c3ceeca

0xffffff826a48e070 : 0xffffff801c3ecb0f

0xffffff8274c43d70 : 0xffffff7f9e1a233a

0xffffff8274c43e60 : 0xffffff7f9e1a1690

0xffffff8274c43f20 : 0xffffff801c3d0169

0xffffff8274c43f40 : 0xffffff801c2f22bd

0xffffff8274c43f90 : 0xffffff801c2f27b0

0xffffff8274c43fb0 : 0xffffff801c3c8e27

Kernel Extensions in backtrace:

com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement(218.0)[21E4FDDE-336B-3665-824B-A7 2C9DB45F31]@0xffffff7f9e19f000->0xffffff7f9e1c9fff

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task

Mac OS version:

15E65

Kernel version:

Darwin Kernel Version 15.4.0: Fri Feb 26 22:08:05 PST 2016; root:xnu-3248.40.184~3/RELEASE_X86_64

Kernel UUID: 4E7B4496-0B81-34E9-97AF-F316103B0839

Kernel slide: 0x000000001c000000

Kernel text base: 0xffffff801c200000

__HIB text base: 0xffffff801c100000

System model name: MacPro3,1 (Mac-F42C88C8)

System uptime in nanoseconds: 766408412057

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Answer 5

lllaass

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May 2, 2016 12:38 PM in response to Br0K3n T0y

This typically means a hardware problem:

Machine-check capabilities: 0x0000000000000806

This typically means bad memory

6 error-reporting banks

The reports also lists that you are not using ECC (error correcting code) memory.

Open the side cover and see if any light are lit by the memory slots. The memory in the 2006-2008 Mac Pros run hot and frequently fail with time.

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Answer 6

Br0K3n T0y Author

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May 2, 2016 12:57 PM in response to lllaass

Hi lllaass, Thanks for responding so quick. I was thinking it was to do with my graphics card, but this proves otherwise. I have new ram coming this week so hopefully this will sort out problem, the ram i have all have the ridiculously large heatsinks on them so i will apply to new ones when they arrive. Can you recommend any good memory testing software i could use to double check ? there are no lights on but thats not to say it isn't faulty, still new to all this mac scene so please forgive my ignorance.

thanks

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Answer 7

Br0K3n T0y Author

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May 8, 2016 2:15 PM in response to lllaass

Hi lllaass,

I have replaced ram, although the fan seems to kick in after about 2-3mins the unigine software demo ( everything set to max @ 1920x1080) drops to around 5 fps from 30fps. Then sometimes will crash, i am guessing the card is on its way out ? Although i can run photoshop, z brush, blender all ok ( although i haven't done anything intensive yet) .

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