Track Levels On Export Should Default to "ORIGINAL"

This is a user to user forum. Apple never come here - ever.

I don't use the function you're talking about in Logic X but maybe some users here do and may be able to comment. Is this happening with your clients using a specific version and iteration of Logic or has it always happened, going back to Logic 9.x.x or even 8.x.x.

Someone may be able to give pointers on how your clients can avoid this otherwise a bug report directly to Apple would be in order.

I have, however, exported many songs as straight wavs at the original sample rate and bit depth with no change to the recorded level of the tracks (i.e. not following the fader position). They have always gone into colleagues ProTools system exactly as they went out of my Logic system although I still use Logic 9.1.8 and have not moved to Logic X as my main working system.

No, Logic 10.2.2 still works as expected- exported mono tracks are mono and levels are as recorded, must be pilot error.

danzocat wrote:

Oh, and without fail, the files are stereo, which also is redundant and inconvenient for people mixing on a console, consumes double the space and processing resources, etc. Please, I don't need stereo kick drums, etc. This needs to be made brain dead easy for your users.

It's not Logic's fault that the next-gen of Logic users know absolutely nothing about audio recording and apparently don't care to learn. The software does not need to be dumbed down, like any professional program, users need to educate themselves on how to use it.

Mono <-> Stereo = User Error

Recorded Low Levels = User Error

Exporting Files works exactly as expected!

Pilot error. It is simple, and not hard. In the movie, note how I lowered the faders on the original tracks.

Here you can see (from the waveform) that the exported tracks are actually copies of the originals:

You are blaming the tools, where the tools are simply not to blame. It is absurdly simple to export all tracks unaffected by the fader settings. You can also opt to leave out the plugins

If users want less choices and dumbed down software they can use Garageband...

Some of the tracks, if they are software instrument should be in stereo as they have stereo output.

Recorded tracks, vocals, bass, guitar...ect, can be mono or stereo depending on how they're recorded.

What you are seeing is the result of Apple reducing the price $1,000, --> $500 --> $200 and removing any software protection, the program is now heavily pirated and often in the hands of users with zero background in recording. Apple does have a comprehensive manual online as well as video tutorials, plus there's a few thousand Logic video tutorials on youtube, some of them quite decent.

Actual musicians who give a d@mn about their product do take the time to learn the basics of the tools they're using.

Nonsense. It is a matter of knowing what you are doing and READING the dialog window - not rocket science or brain surgery. Seems like you may have been unlucky with the literacy level of your clients - or maybe they were stressed out because you yelled at them.

danzocat wrote:

I live in the real world, dealing with real Apple customers. I know you don't appreciate people who fail to assiduously study the craft, but they're born every day, and they pay money for professional services,

If they're willing to pay money for professional services and yet can't take 5-minutes to learn what they're doing they deserve the product they get. Also, if the files are 24-bit, recording level makes little difference, it's not like the old days of 16-bit tracks recorded at low levels. I imagine you're seeing tracks that were recorded with cheap audio interfaces and/or by users that have very little knowledge of the recording process.

It's not the software's fault, I've used both Cubase and ProTools, Logic is not much different from either, in fact they're far more alike than different.

No offense to the good people here... but when you have a company that uses slogans like "It Just Works" and "Let Us Do The Thinking For You" one can't expect the highest levels of hardware/software literacy.

Nothing is wrong with Logics export, automation is not only fader moves, pop or dance producers use a lot of automations ( filters etc) to get sound what is needed and of course want to keep that in final mix, even mix is done on console. There is choise- plugins, no plugins, automation or no, depend of situation. If someone is not smart enough, to make 1-2 mouse clicks in clear export dialogue box, maybe let profi helps them.