Q: Install codecs without the player

I suggest you install QuickTime on a machine that is not connected to the internet, do your conversion with your editing software to use a different codec and then move on.

Apple will not change its position for Windows users of its apps that they no longer support.

You're asking for a codec that Apple created years ago (QuickTime version 3 I believe) and has discontinued.

Apple hasn't pre-installed QuickTime Player 7 on OS X machines in 7 years and has moved on to QuickTime X which is an OS X product only.

QuickTime for Windows is a dead product and the handwriting was on the wall when they didn't release a version 8 or 9 software update.

I guess you think that IBM should still support the Lotus Notes software in bought in 1995?

I'm done here. I gave you some workarounds and that's the end of my skill-set.

Most current cameras use the H.263 video codec.

Seems to me your issue with your your Adobe software and had nothing to do with QuickTime.

I suggest you ask someone else.

Hey I kind of get it but joemorgan does have a point, but in the same hand you are also right about alternative players that do work like the VLC that you mentioned QuickTimeKirk. I get it that quick time has a flaw with security and that Apple is being nice enough to let us know the issue! Yes you are correct that VLC is a nice option and does work very well so far!

Thank you!

But you could have been a little more informative on options with how to, choices, types of players and where to go; I do understand joemorgan's point though.

I mean with all digital camera manufactures out there they still use the quick time formats for there video files and I believe that they should still be supported. However I understand there were security issues which Apple was nice to let us know about and from the way it sounds is that Apple separated itself from the quick time vendor; but in the same breath Apple still uses it in your own software with no issues. So it does sound like Apple is throwing window users under the bus a bit.

I get each company has its own methods, ways to serve itself which is true business, but on the other hand we live in a multi device - multi integrated culture to where all our devices should work seamlessly together in some fashion. Camera vendors will use a software that should be compatible with most devices but things do change, like Java for example. Java a program that was created many years ago was supposed to work with all devices that is until security issues arise that become overwhelming to control and that is why new programs are created. Java then becomes obsolete! I do believe that when a product is created it be done so to last and should be supported through its life and we the consumers should not be forced into something we do not want, like or care for. It is also about having many choices or options along with excellent service. Some changes can be a good thing but not all the time and some can be crazy wrong.

I do love my IPod with ITunes but even that can be overbearing at times when you start dropping support or keep up with issues because of an OS other than a Apple product. Apple created cell phones (I-Phones) which should work with most devices no different from any other phone and not be gender specific!

If Apple wants consumers to continually purchase Apple products then Apple needs to give consumers what they want no hassle reliability with Excellent service! To put things on a level field as a consumer I am not happy with Microsoft as well, but I still use both. Both of them have positive and negatives! Also remember not every user is a computer tech or can understand a cryptic language/lingo.

But in spite of ll this you did give an alternative that does work for which I am grateful, Thank You!

joemorgan. VLC does work pretty good so far, you can find it at videolan.org. I hear you I have same issues as well! We are in a time when the things we are used to go obsolete for whatever reason and agree some things should not change. But there is hope and there are some alternatives out there that do work,some I found out there actually work better. Hang in there, maybe someday these vendors will get a clue!

Thanks for your post.

Rereading mine I saw an error where I wrote H263 when I meant H264.

The only camera outside the newer versions in their iOS and builtin OS X devices Apple ever made was over 20 years ago (QuickTake) and those formats are still supported on all machines and devices.

There is no such thing as a "QuickTime" image or video format. Apple has been a partner with the MPEG (Moving Picture Expert Group) and has followed the rules and standards rigorously  in all of their products.

All modern cameras (the last 15 years) also follow the MPEG standards.

By ending Windows support for QuickTime Apple suggests those users remove the software for security concerns. All those users need to do is use other software to view their images and videos.

joemorgan you do have a valid point and I could not agree with you more on most. But unfortunately big companies today no longer listen to us the consumers, some are starting to a bit; like Microsoft finally got a clue that we did not like the changes they made but still has not quite latched on yet. I am both a Microsoft user (98, XP, Vista and 8) as well with some Apple products (Itunes & Ipod). Love both but in the same hand despise them but unfortunately as times change so do the products, some remain and some go the way of the dinosaur. My Mom plays online games a lot like Pogo which uses a Java application to which is going bye bye soon and the Pogo creator has not converted to the newer applications to run the programs; for whatever reason.

Most vendors for one reason or another can not keep up with the growing changes because they are coming too fast to keep up and with the ever growing security threats out there like ransomeware. I just want you to know that there are some other alternatives out there that do work, it is just a pain to find them. That is why it takes us the consumers to communicate with each other to let one know where to find it. Apple along with several other tech media giants (that I can not name) will eventually change someday whether for better or worse. As they say "its the sign of the times" and yeah it bites!

joemorgan. VLC does work pretty good so far, you can find it at videolan.org. I hear you I have same issues as well! We are in a time when the things we are used to go obsolete for whatever reason and agree some things should not change. But there is hope and there are some alternatives out there that do work,some I found out there actually work better. Hang in there, maybe someday these vendors will get it.

Good luck!

You must have been typing and didn't get my post.

There is no QuickTime format.

I understand and thanks!

You mentioned that in the last 15 years, well somebody must not have gotten that memo! (LOL). The only reason I say that is I own 3 devices that are only 3 to 6 years old at the most and they still use that **** quick time format or to be more correct a .3gp file which uses quick time, I guess they must have been manufactured earlier. In any case I hear you and thank you for your reply!

Yes you are correct about MPEG and about the security issues! Like I said before even Java has security issues and will soon go the way of the dinosaur, it is becoming obsolete. Trust me I do understand about the security issue thing though.

I do appreciate your response and taking the time! BTW like your pic, I am a cat person.

On another note; It would have been nice if I had some heads up about Apple Itunes with vista before I tried the update which buggered up, but thankfully by reading support pages I was able to recover. Thanks that I had my library on an external drive and I did not even have to restore files, drive assignments or anything else. It put me back exactly where I left off, so I guess you can say this last version worked well. I did not reinstall Quick time this time and I did download the VLC which so far it is working OK, I just only have to do some tweaking in settings.

Yes I know, It is just loose terminology i guess. It is Quick Time and uses a .3gp file extension although please remind me of the format in quick time. There are so many formats now that it is hard to keep up.

Please excuse my duh moments! (LOL).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GP_and_3G2

It's not a QuickTime format, either.

Dammit Jim i'm a Doctor not a vulcan!

OK I see we are stuck on semantics here, yes I know there is no such thing, I have just read up about quick time and the many formats it used including moov files (way old). People are not going to stop calling it that no matter how many times you say this, maybe if you instruct others to read about it they will get a better understanding about quick time and the many formats it can utilize. Whether it is .3gp, .3g2, DV, MPEG etc. they all still use quick time software and yes if there is the period before the prefix it establishes the file or file extension to which is correlation to the format type. Like BMP = bitmap or GIF = Graphics interchange Format. Heck there is even QTM = Quick Time Movie = format

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime_File_Format & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTime   

Point is Quick Time is still used today in everything media related and is not dead, in fact there is quick time X but is only for Mac OS 10.6 or greater. Just like IE 9 is no longer supported across the board. Point is that as the previous gentleman joemorgan stated Apple no longer supports its consumers that use windows based systems leaving them in the cold to find something else. It is like saying hey I love my Apple I Pod or I Phone, but now I have to throw it away because Apple no longer supports the product I purchased from them because I own a Windows based or Linux PC.