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May 21, 2016 4:55 AM in response to joemorganby msa328,★HelpfulHey joemorgan,
Thank You very much for your post with the youtube link, this was very helpful and informative important information! I do relate to you and agree! Apparently greed has taken over and good customer service with support has left the building these days. Not just with Apple but all others as well because camera and video equipment still uses this darn MOV file structure. I am also now having problems with it in the new VLC player, I can convert it using a video converter such as Any Video Converter but it is a pain to figure out which format will work best. Also to your point I should not have to go thru this to play a video from a camera that is not even a year old.
At this point we can only hope that Apple with other vendors using it get hurt from it and then maybe they will learn from this great error in judgement that they have done because of there greed. They are trying to force us to give up on our PC/Windows based systems in hopes that we will run out spending tons of money to purchase a Mac. If they think it will work guess again because as of now I will not ever get one, I want them to pay me back for every song, video, movie that I paid for and take back there I-Pod and I-Tunes that I had once enjoyed. I will no longer support any manufacture that still uses Quick Time or any of its related formats until they can give me something that will work universally on computers or at best have ones to work with PC users.
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May 21, 2016 5:25 AM in response to msa328by joemorgan,I see the MAC users who posted here in earlier posts are silent on this topic now. Some MAC users can come across as real snobs. They look past Apple's shortcomings and won't say anything negative even if it's true. Most don't even have the decency to acknowledge a Windows user taught them something.
Oh Well, if they want their next computer to have an apple molded into the plastic computer case so be it.
You can pick up a Windows computer with just as much RAM, the fastest processor available with all the bells and whistles for about 50% less than a Mac. Don't get me wrong, 10 years ago Mac had a superior and cleaner looking operation system. Today, not so much. The world has caught up.
If you're into monopoly's then Mac is for you. It's true that Apple devices integrate better with mac computers in some cases. Duh! They also use Microsoft Office and several other Microsoft systems because Mac never developed anything better.
I been using Classic Media Player and it opens anything I've throw at it. https://mpc-hc.org/
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May 21, 2016 5:30 AM in response to joemorganby QuickTimeKirk,Yawn.
Mac's cost more because they're better built with better components.
Nothing you write here will be viewed by Apple.
Apple ended support for a piece of very old software when it found the cost of updating outweighed its value. Microsoft has done the same thing over the years.
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May 21, 2016 9:12 AM in response to QuickTimeKirkby joemorgan,Yawn,
A. you keep ducking the issue Apple made a mistake and threw Windows users under the bus without warning.
B. Mac components are not superior to a high quality Windows built machine. Although they do make computers with cheaper components for people that cannot afford a high end windows build.
C. 55% of the world uses Windows Computers / compared to 27% using Mac
D. You never addressed the codec issue and just kept telling me to install a player as if that would cure my editing problems.
E. A Windows user answer my question and solved my issue on You Tube.https://youtu.be/Fjn11dC_8kk
F. . Windows users are more likely to be aged between 25-45 ( averagely ) and Mac users are more likely to be between 18-25 years of age. There is another interesting thing about these two operating systems is that Mac users are more likely to live in Cities then Windows users. In other words, inexperienced KIDS are more likely to buy Macs.
G.Cost is the key factor in buying anything, because it is the return which people have to pay to the manufacture for its product. If you want a budget friendly market then Windows computer I mean PC is the best option for you. But if you have some extra money then you can also buy MAC. The main thing is that MAC will always cost you 100-1000$ more then PC for the same performance combination.
H.
You should consider a Mac if...
- You want a machine that just works.
- You don't mind not being on the cutting edge of hardware.
- You don't mind the price premium.
- You don't mind being locked into Apple's walled garden.
- Your primary use for the machine is creativity or productivity, such as Word Processing, Creative Design, or Publishing.
You should consider Windows if...
- You're a gamer.
- You want the most cutting edge hardware available.
- You don't mind performing routine maintenance.
- You'll be using the device exclusively in an Enterprise environment.
- You're a power user.
- You need to run older software or programming code.
- Your focus is on heavy CPU/GPU tasks, such as CAD or 3D Rendering.
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May 21, 2016 9:26 AM in response to joemorganby QuickTimeKirk,You don't need any codecs. All you need is a different way to play your files.
QuickTime for Windows is now a dead product. OS X development of QuickTime continues and is now at version 10.4. It offers many of the features only found in the previous Pro upgrade of the software. It even offers features previously only found in third party software like screen recording.
There was never a version 8 or 9 of QuickTime and the 11 year window for both Mac and PC users was a clear view that the development was ending.
I'm done in this discussion. Any further posts from you will appear to be a ranting dialog and may be removed from these threads by the moderators.
And your link to YouTube doesn't even load for me.
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May 21, 2016 9:44 AM in response to QuickTimeKirkby joemorgan,Still with the you don't need codecs to edit videos. The You tube link is a good one.
Maybe you will believe Adobe??? Here it is straight from them.
Adobe Creative Cloud
April 16, 2016 /Motion Graphics & Animation /Video Editing / The Creative Cloud Team
QuickTime on Windows
308Recently the United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team issued Alert (TA16105-A), which recommends Windows users uninstall Apple QuickTime from their computers.
Adobe has worked extensively on removing dependencies on QuickTime in its professional video, audio and digital imaging applications and native decoding of many .mov formats is available today (including uncompressed, DV, IMX, MPEG2, XDCAM, h264, JPEG, DNxHD, DNxHR, AVCI and Cineform). Native export support is also possible for DV and Cineform in .mov wrappers.
Unfortunately, there are some codecs which remain dependent on QuickTime being installed on Windows, most notably Apple ProRes. We know how common this format is in many worfklows, and we continue to work hard to improve this situation, but have no estimated timeframe for native decode currently.
Other commonly used QuickTime formats which would be affected by the uninstallation of QuickTime include Animation (import and export), DNxHD/HR (export) as would workflows where growing QuickTime files are being used (although we strongly advise using MXF for this wherever possible).
Adobe’s desire has always been to support everything natively without the need for QuickTime. As a result of the above we intend to increase our efforts to remove these incompatibilities, and provide our customers with a complete native pipeline. We will provide more information on this as we progress.
Motion Graphics & Animation, Video Editing
Product News (20), QuickTime (1), Windows (2)
The Creative Cloud Team
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May 21, 2016 9:49 AM in response to joemorganby QuickTimeKirk,Apple released a Windows version of the ProRes codec over 8 years ago:
Apple ProRes QuickTime Decoder 1.0 for Windows
It appears the Adobe has let you down. Not Apple.
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May 21, 2016 10:16 AM in response to QuickTimeKirkby joemorgan,You should manually type the link to the you-tube video in your browser. It's a good link. https://youtu.be/Fjn11dC_8kk
It's amazing to me that you cannot seem to comprehend the issue at hand. That video spells it out along with a workaround for installing the required codecs on Windows machines.
If you are genuinely trying to get to the bottom of this you can.
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May 21, 2016 10:26 AM in response to joemorganby QuickTimeKirk,There is no "issue at hand" and your video link still doesn't work for me.
I'm done here and will not follow it any longer.
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May 21, 2016 10:45 AM in response to QuickTimeKirkby joemorgan,You've contributed nothing that video editors can benefit from in this thread.
There's no real point in you following any longer. You have nothing to contribute.