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Q: Not all songs from a playlist are synced to iPod nano

I've checked a checkbox to synchronize a playlist consisting of 13 songs to my iPod shuffle, but only 2 of them are synchronized.

 

Screenshot of a playlist in iTunes: https://i.imgur.com/V5MJEx6.png

Screenshot of a playlist on iPod shuffle: https://i.imgur.com/4k1q5Gk.png

Proof that whole playlist is checked to be synced: https://i.imgur.com/B8Kp5Dt.png

 

Songs play fine in iTunes itself on my computer. I certainly wouldn't say songs are in their "native" format for iTunes, since I had to download them from youtube and convert for iTunes, but they are there and playeable, so I would expect them to be transferred.

 

Is this a known issue and how would I resolve it? Thank you!

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10.1)

Posted on May 16, 2016 10:15 AM

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Q: Not all songs from a playlist are synced to iPod nano

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  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe May 16, 2016 7:39 PM in response to k_bx
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    May 16, 2016 7:39 PM in response to k_bx

    I certainly wouldn't say songs are in their "native" format for iTunes, since I had to download them from youtube and convert for iTunes

    Are all of the songs that do not sync these converted songs?  The two that do sync are not these converted songs?

     

    In iTunes, show this playlist and right-click on one of these songs that do not sync, then Get Info.  In the Info window, go to File tab.  What does it say for kind and bit rate?

     

    Also, on the Info window File tab, find location.  Does it give a file path to the song file location on your computer's drive, or does it say iCloud?  If it says iCloud, the song is not stored locally, so it won't sync.  And since these are not purchased songs from iTunes Store, IF they are only in iCloud, they must be in your iCloud Music Library.  If would be important to know if youriCloud Music Library is from a subscription to iTunes Match or Apple Music.

  • by k_bx,

    k_bx k_bx May 18, 2016 1:11 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    May 18, 2016 1:11 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    Thank you for your response!

    Are all of the songs that do not sync these converted songs?  The two that do sync are not these converted songs?

    Yes, all songs from the playlist were downloaded via youtube-dl utility.

     

    In iTunes, show this playlist and right-click on one of these songs that do not sync, then Get Info.  In the Info window, go to File tab.  What does it say for kind and bit rate?

    One that synced: AAC, Lavf56.1.0, 124Kb/2

    One that didn't: MPEG-4, Lavf57.25.100, 186Kb/s

     

    Also, on the Info window File tab, find location


    All files are local.

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,Solvedanswer

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe May 18, 2016 2:36 AM in response to k_bx
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    May 18, 2016 2:36 AM in response to k_bx

    It makes sense that the AAC song syncs.

     

    I think "MPEG-4" is the problem here.  That's not MP3 and it's not exactly AAC either (although related).  MPEG-4 usually describes a video file, not audio file.  These are audio-only files, correct?  MPEG-4 is not on the list of supported formats for iPod nano Audio Playback, according to the tech specs for the most recent iPod nano

     

    https://www.apple.com/ipod-nano/specs/

     

    Since these songs play in iTunes, you can try converting these MPEG-4 files to AAC in iTunes.  First, go to iTunes preferences General pane.  Click Import Settings button.  Set it to Import Using - AAC Encoder, with Setting - iTunes Plus, then OK.

     

    Go to the playlist with these songs, and select the MPEG-4 songs at the same time.  From the menu bar, File -> Create New Version -> Create AAC Version.  In the playlist that syncs to the iPod, replace the MPEG-4 songs with the AAC versions.  Try syncing iPod again.

    since I had to download them from youtube and convert for iTunes

    The above method (using iTunes) converts an audio file that was already converted.  That may reduce audio quality.  Alternately, you can redo whatever conversion method you previously used, to create either MP3 or AAC audio files from your original source files.  Another way to convert is using QuickTime Player, if you can open and play the original source (video?) files using QuickTime Player; from the menu bar, File -> Export -> Audio Only.  This process creates AAC audio files.

  • by k_bx,

    k_bx k_bx May 20, 2016 3:29 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    May 20, 2016 3:29 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    Thank you very much! Using iTunes's conversion mechanism helped, I hope one day it will convert music automatically as I put it on my iPod.

     

    Have a great day!

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe May 20, 2016 5:10 PM in response to k_bx
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    May 20, 2016 5:10 PM in response to k_bx

    There is actually a setting, on the iPod's Summary settings screen in iTunes, that converts song files while syncing.  Depending on your iPod model, it may say something like Convert higher bit rate songs to [128 kbps] AAC.  However, in your case, since the original songs were in a format that is not compatible with the iPod, I'm not sure it would work.  Also, this setting may also convert songs that DO already sync to the iPod, and reduce their sound quality.  The purpose of this setting is to make song files smaller, to fit more songs on the iPod.  The cost of reducing song file size is lower sound quality.

     

    So, what you did to convert the song files before syncing is probably the better option.

  • by k_bx,

    k_bx k_bx May 21, 2016 4:31 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    May 21, 2016 4:31 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    I have that conversion option checked, unfortunately it didn't work, which surprised me as well.

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe May 21, 2016 4:53 AM in response to k_bx
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    May 21, 2016 4:53 AM in response to k_bx

    Probably because those "MPEG-4" files are not compatible with the iPod, so iTunes did not make the attempt to sync (or convert during syncing).  As I mentioned, the purpose of that option is to make song files smaller to fit more songs on the iPod.  Not to make items (that are not compatible) compatible.  If it's currently still checked, you should uncheck it so that it does not unnecessarily convert songs (and reduce sound quality).