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Q: How can I view my music in list view in iTunes 12.4?

Its about 30 seconds in and I can't believe how much I hate the 12.4 redesign. Where for instance is list view for my music? Where is Playlist view? Where is the Home Movies tab? Do they test this crap on chimps or just throw it out there and assume we will just suck it up like lemmings?

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X El Capitan (10.11.4)

Posted on May 17, 2016 12:34 AM

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Q: How can I view my music in list view in iTunes 12.4?

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  • by PDXSMB,

    PDXSMB PDXSMB May 17, 2016 12:37 AM in response to PDXSMB
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    May 17, 2016 12:37 AM in response to PDXSMB

    And is there a way to go back to 12.3? I cannot believe how much this *****. 99.9% absolutely useless...like I could possibly give a flying f(*)&k what Arianna Grande's playlist is...

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,Helpful

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe May 17, 2016 1:59 AM in response to PDXSMB
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    May 17, 2016 1:59 AM in response to PDXSMB

    Where for instance is list view for my music?

    You can change the view for your library in the sidebar.  Under Library, click the view you want to use.  If "list view" is the plain list with columns, click Songs.

    Where is Playlist view?

    If "playlist view" is what you saw before when you clicked the Playlist button (which showed the sidebar), the sidebar is now visible by default.  If "playlist view" means something else, please post back with more info.

    Where is the Home Movies tab?

    Select to show your Movies library.  In the sidebar, under Library, click Home Movies.

     

    Overall, this version is different, but it makes more sense overall.  I'm glad the sidebar is back as a permanent fixture of the interface.

  • by jsegel,

    jsegel jsegel May 17, 2016 1:24 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    May 17, 2016 1:24 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    Under "Library" if you select recently added, in music or movies or anything, it will come up as icons. There is no list view.

    Annoying.

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe May 17, 2016 1:28 AM in response to jsegel
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    May 17, 2016 1:28 AM in response to jsegel

    That's something new.  The Recently Added smart playlist is still there (if you had it before) and it works like any regular playlist (where you can change its view).

  • by necronym,Solvedanswer

    necronym necronym May 17, 2016 1:49 AM in response to PDXSMB
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    May 17, 2016 1:49 AM in response to PDXSMB

    From the drop down menu, select Music. Once in Music, in the sidebar, select Songs and you're into the traditional List View.

  • by Roger Wilmut1,

    Roger Wilmut1 Roger Wilmut1 May 17, 2016 1:56 AM in response to jsegel
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    May 17, 2016 1:56 AM in response to jsegel

    jsegel wrote:

     

    Under "Library" if you select recently added, in music or movies or anything, it will come up as icons. There is no list view.

    Annoying.

    Screen Shot 2016-05-17 at 09.53.19.jpg

     

    @PDXSMB: You can select the media kind either from the drop-down menu just to the right of the back/forward buttons in the toolbar (you can edit it to include only the media you want) or from the menubar View>Media Kind which also shows key shortcuts.

  • by jsegel,

    jsegel jsegel May 17, 2016 2:14 AM in response to necronym
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    May 17, 2016 2:14 AM in response to necronym

    I see that, but I want "recently added" in list view

    And Home Movies in list view. (in fact anything in Movies).

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe May 17, 2016 2:17 AM in response to jsegel
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    May 17, 2016 2:17 AM in response to jsegel

    For Home Videos, select that view under Library.  Then, from menu bar, View -> View As -> List

     

    However, that option does not exist for Recently Added (under Library).  However, your Recently Added smart playlist is still there, and you can change its view like with any playlist.

  • by jsegel,

    jsegel jsegel May 17, 2016 2:21 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe
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    May 17, 2016 2:21 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

    Awesome!

    Wonder why you can't do this with "Recently Added"?

  • by Kenichi Watanabe,

    Kenichi Watanabe Kenichi Watanabe May 17, 2016 2:28 AM in response to jsegel
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    May 17, 2016 2:28 AM in response to jsegel

    Maybe they'll do it for next update.  You can provide feedback to Apple here

     

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/  (under OS X Apps - iTunes)

  • by EMGULS79,

    EMGULS79 EMGULS79 May 17, 2016 10:01 AM in response to PDXSMB
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    May 17, 2016 10:01 AM in response to PDXSMB

    Your question has already been answered but I can't resist chiming in to say I wholeheartedly agree with you - I loathe this new update every bit as much as you do. Even now that I know how it works - I consider it burdensome and onerous. They have forced me to go to hidden drop down options where before I had simple icons to click on. Grrrr. Somebody had too much time on their hands. C'mon, Apple, put your productivity towards developing new technology like the iPad that could actually replace a laptop, or an Apple Watch that could actually function independently of an iPhone during my long morning runs. Don't waste valuable talent making any more of these (non) "improvements" to iTunes - unless it's to bring it back to what it was. http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/16/11684666/apple-itunes-design-update-released-1 2-4

  • by Jack Holland,

    Jack Holland Jack Holland May 19, 2016 1:42 PM in response to EMGULS79
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    May 19, 2016 1:42 PM in response to EMGULS79

    You’re damned right. iTunes has been gaining layer after layer of bloat for years and Apple seem intent on change for change’s sake.

     

    They have more brains than the Manhattan Project* and more money than god: why can’t they come up with an interface that Just Works?

     

     

    *OK, maybe this is hyperbole. But you get my meaning.

  • by EMGULS79,

    EMGULS79 EMGULS79 May 19, 2016 3:15 PM in response to Jack Holland
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    May 19, 2016 3:15 PM in response to Jack Holland

    I'm not so sure it's hyperbole at all, Jack.

     

    But I'm glad you replied because that gave me an auto-notification that reminded me of this thread so that I can share a new trick with this new 12.4 release that I just discovered this morning.

     

    Earlier I mentioned hating to have to click through the onerous drop-down menus to switch between apps and music and podcasts, etc. Well by experimenting with the menu commands I learned that there are keyboard shortcuts which will accomplish the same thing much more easily. When in iTunes, to view:

    Your music: CMD + 1

    Your movies: CMD + 2

    Your TV shows : CMD + 3

    Your podcasts: CMD + 4

    Your apps: CMD + 7

     

    There are additional such shortcuts for every number 1 through 9 and you can see the whole list if within iTunes you click on "View" in the menu bar, then "Media Kind". I was going BONKERS and cussing up a blue streak every time I wanted to switch from apps to music to podcasts until I learned these and I've already memorized the combinations I use most frequently.

     

    Now if they would only make the default button on the iPhone syncing screen the "sync" button like it used to be, instead of the "done" button as they have switched it to....but I'm so ecstatic about having found a way to defeat the blasted drop-down menu that I'll hold my peace on that item for now.....

  • by Jack Holland,

    Jack Holland Jack Holland May 19, 2016 5:03 PM in response to EMGULS79
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    May 19, 2016 5:03 PM in response to EMGULS79

    Hi Emguls

     

    Didn’t the previous version have something similar ? Because the functionality could be achieved by pointing and clicking we never needed to summon these shortcuts.

     

    As with all UI changes, eventually we get used to the most retrograde of design moves (don’t get me started on how inferior Pages 5.62 is to 4.3) but in most cases you can see some overarching concept in what Apple are attempting, namely preparing us for the integration on OSX and iOS. But iTunes needs a ground-up rebuild to separate the functions of user library and shop front; to split sound, visual and App catalogues; and remove the accretions of pointless complications of the last ten years.

     

    I’ll admit that to create something so simple requires far more thought and ingenuity than another mere round of bolting on of features, but that’s precisely why we love Apple right ? Apple customers have a right to expect the very best – and quite simply we’re not being given it.

     

    Another round of rearranging the Titanic’s deckchairs could make old hands jump ship. I’ll bet there are smart programmers out there who would love to implement third party solutions to Apple’s Gordian Knot.

     

    I can’t see iTunes staggering on for much longer – even its (very) few fans wouldn't put up much of a fight to prevent a radical overhaul.

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