HT206230: About the OS X El Capitan v10.11.5 Update

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tommybahama

Q: Does this update require a reboot? How about stating this plainly in all update announcements!

This is not rocket science and needs no explaining.


In all updates, state plainly if the machine will undergo a reboot.

 

Also, for simple fixes that do not necessarily require a reboot, don't reboot. If your techs and engineers know that a reboot is really unnecessary, but feel it might be a good idea, the offer an option like:

"Although a system restart is not required, we'd recommend it.

Click here __ to restart after the update.

Click here __ to restart another time."

 

Mac, Mac OS X (10.5.4)

Posted on May 21, 2016 2:12 PM

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Q: Does this update require a reboot? How about stating this plainly in all update announcements!

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  • by FoxFifth,

    FoxFifth FoxFifth May 21, 2016 3:41 PM in response to tommybahama
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    May 21, 2016 3:41 PM in response to tommybahama

    This is a user-to-user support forum. If you want to make a suggestion to Apple you may want to also post that at http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

  • by tommybahama,

    tommybahama tommybahama May 21, 2016 6:10 PM in response to FoxFifth
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    May 21, 2016 6:10 PM in response to FoxFifth

    Thanks for coming in today.

     

    Your sweetness makes life worth living.

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E May 22, 2016 12:28 PM in response to tommybahama
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    May 22, 2016 12:28 PM in response to tommybahama

    They do. It says so in the App Store on the right side of the update item.

    I can't remember an OS update that didn't require a restart.

  • by pinkstones,

    pinkstones pinkstones May 22, 2016 12:34 PM in response to tommybahama
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    May 22, 2016 12:34 PM in response to tommybahama

    tommybahama wrote:

     

    This is not rocket science and needs no explaining.


    In all updates, state plainly if the machine will undergo a reboot.

     

    Also, for simple fixes that do not necessarily require a reboot, don't reboot. If your techs and engineers know that a reboot is really unnecessary, but feel it might be a good idea, the offer an option like:

    "Although a system restart is not required, we'd recommend it.

    Click here __ to restart after the update.

    Click here __ to restart another time."

     

     

    One, you don't need to be creative with font size/color for people to read your question.  Two, when you go to the App Store and then click on the Updates tab, it will tell you quite plainly that you have to restart your computer.  ALL updates/upgrades require a restart.  This is not new.  Just because you don't see it or aren't paying attention, doesn't mean it's not there.

  • by tommybahama,

    tommybahama tommybahama May 22, 2016 2:26 PM in response to pinkstones
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    May 22, 2016 2:26 PM in response to pinkstones

    Hey all

     

    Yeah ... I noticed the the System Restart Required is in tiny type in the left side of the screen, and there are a couple of prompts that advise the fact that a reboot will be required. GOT IT THANKS.

     

    However, as a UI/UX expert, since I work on these kinds of things - think about the placement of the eeensie weensie little note about the restart being on the left side of the  page - and everything to do with starting the update is on the right side of the page. So the user's focus is on the right side of the page, not the left.

     

    This all gets back to the past 10 years of website designs that a lot of companies do now where everything is the same, no bold colors, nothing is obvious, and the designs are all pasty-white and boring. Hide the significant elements in grey tiny text lest anyone become offended.

     

    As to my use of red and large type, oh dear God he used color! ****!   So sick of the pasty white minimalist arrogance. Color is legal, and should be used more.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 May 22, 2016 2:27 PM in response to tommybahama
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    May 22, 2016 2:27 PM in response to tommybahama

    I can read it without a problem, have you tried glasses?

  • by pinkstones,

    pinkstones pinkstones May 22, 2016 2:33 PM in response to tommybahama
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    May 22, 2016 2:33 PM in response to tommybahama

    tommybahama wrote:

     

    Hey all

     

    Yeah ... I noticed the the System Restart Required is in tiny type in the left side of the screen, and there are a couple of prompts that advise the fact that a reboot will be required. GOT IT THANKS.

     

    However, as a UI/UX expert, since I work on these kinds of things - think about the placement of the eeensie weensie little note about the restart being on the left side of the  page - and everything to do with starting the update is on the right side of the page. So the user's focus is on the right side of the page, not the left.

     

    This all gets back to the past 10 years of website designs that a lot of companies do now where everything is the same, no bold colors, nothing is obvious, and the designs are all pasty-white and boring. Hide the significant elements in grey tiny text lest anyone become offended.

     

    As to my use of red and large type, oh dear God he used color! ****!   So sick of the pasty white minimalist arrogance. Color is legal, and should be used more.

     

    1. If you don't like the way Apple phrases/words/styles the Updates tab of the Mac App Store, send them feedback rather than complaining about it here.  We can do anything about it.  We're just Apple users, same as the next person.  ---> http://www.apple.com/feedback
    2. You're not the only person in the world, nor the only person who uses this site.  People of all ages and visual abilities come here looking for help or to help others, and large, distracting fonts/colors can prove problematic for some.  That's why all responses are standardized in their font type, color, and size.  It's what's easiest for everyone's eyes.
  • by tommybahama,

    tommybahama tommybahama May 22, 2016 2:44 PM in response to pinkstones
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    May 22, 2016 2:44 PM in response to pinkstones

    Thanks for coming in today!

  • by babowa,

    babowa babowa May 22, 2016 4:38 PM in response to tommybahama
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    May 22, 2016 4:38 PM in response to tommybahama

    No, absolutely thank you! This exchange prompted me to look at your earlier threads; it's always interesting what you can find here:

     

    This was what you said:

     

    OK ... so I found a torrent of the Yosemite installer and it had the exact same issues

     

    here:

     

    MacBook Pro (Nov 2010) El Capitan Install Woe

     

     

    FWIW, it is not a good idea to broadcast that one downloaded an illegal copy of the Mac OS on an Apple site. As an expert, you should know the terms of the SLA as well as the ToU:

     

    http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/OSX10103.pdf

     

    Apple Support Communities Use Agreement

     

    Thanks again!