468Daddy
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Q: Photos and iCloud

It boggles me.  I surrender.  I'm going with Google Photos.  There's apparently no way to save photos to the cloud and delete them from your device.  Unbelievable.

Posted on May 21, 2016 5:34 PM

by LACAllen,Solvedanswer
LACAllen LACAllen
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"Gee, this car I bought doesn't fly. Not very useful"

 

What you want is another product. IMO, that does not diminish the value of the one Apple provides.

Posted on May 22, 2016 5:47 AM

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  • by 468Daddy,

    468Daddy 468Daddy May 22, 2016 5:48 AM in response to LACAllen
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    May 22, 2016 5:48 AM in response to LACAllen

    I get it.....just never noticed the "this car doesn't fly" warning on the Apple disclosure label.....

  • by LACAllen,

    LACAllen LACAllen May 22, 2016 5:52 AM in response to 468Daddy
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    May 22, 2016 5:52 AM in response to 468Daddy

    Perhaps a fair point... but what about the number of times and ways we have tried to explain it to you?

  • by léonie,

    léonie léonie May 22, 2016 5:54 AM in response to 468Daddy
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    May 22, 2016 5:54 AM in response to 468Daddy
    If I try to do that, I get a warning saying that deleting photos from my phone will delete them from the cloud, which seem totally counterproductive to me.

    With "optimize storage" the photos are not on your iPhone, only in iCloud.  There are no photos to delete from your iPhone.

    So in an optimized iCloud Photo Library deleting means deleting from iCloud.

     

    The general idea of Apple's "Optimize" is, that you should stop worrying about storage on your devices. Apple will use all available storage for the photos, the storage will always be on the limit, but if you need storage for other tasks, more photos will be optimized and storage freed.  The storage management is completely automatic.

  • by 468Daddy,

    468Daddy 468Daddy May 22, 2016 6:03 AM in response to LarryHN
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    May 22, 2016 6:03 AM in response to LarryHN

    All right.  Syncing is not storing.  Storing is not syncing.  ICPL syncs as designed, ICD stores as designed.  Last question: Is there an Apple solution that will store photos in the cloud, accessible to multiple devices,  sync with new photos taken on a phone, yet not store the photos on the phone, so that the phones storage capacity remains available for new photos?

  • by LarryHN,

    LarryHN LarryHN May 22, 2016 6:44 AM in response to 468Daddy
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    May 22, 2016 6:44 AM in response to 468Daddy

    no

     

    LN

  • by Rysz,

    Rysz Rysz May 22, 2016 9:58 AM in response to 468Daddy
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    May 22, 2016 9:58 AM in response to 468Daddy

    ...however, once my Photos are in the cloud, I'd like to take them off my phone so I can keep taking more photos.  If I try to do that, I get a warning saying that deleting photos from my phone will delete them from the cloud, which seem totally counterproductive to me.

    Once you turn iCloud Photo Library on, everything is done automatically: uploading, downloading and syncing. Meaning that you can edit, organize and add or delete photos anywhere and the changes will be reflected everywhere. iCloud Drive and Google Photos are manual.

     

    Your primary concern seems to be storage space on your device. When you select to keep an Optimized library on your device, Photos will automatically and dynamically adjust the library size based on how much free storage is available. When you need more for other files, the local Photos library will shrink. This is accomplished by replacing full-resolution images with tiny thumbnails. Full-size will be downloaded if and when you need it. For example my full-resolution library on my Mac and in iCloud is about 45 GB, but my local library on iPhone is only about 8 GB (I have plenty of storage space, but rarely use the iPhone for editing), whereas on my iPad (that I do use for editing and organizing) it's about 14 GB.

     

    This process of Optimizing a local library is a slow one, especially if the starting point was a full-size one, but it does work very well. Read the iMore article I linked to.

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