upgrading to Capitan but App store closed by itself!!

Has this happened to anyone before? Does something have to be fixed before I do the upgrade? Is the average download time an hour and 15 minutes? That's what it said for mine before it closed unexpectedly. Is it the same for all Macbooks or the time is in accordance with the version you have? Thanks so much!!

MacBook (13-inch Mid 2010), Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Jun 1, 2016 5:48 PM

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Jun 1, 2016 8:11 PM in response to nature_girl75

There may be something else going on in your computer, so before attempting to upgrade

past the present set of circumstances that would only mask underlying causes, to help us

get some vague ideas of what may be going on in the computer now, consider creating an

Etrecheck report; see what that's about, here: http://etrecheck.com/#about


Several places you can look inside the Mac OS X without such a helpful free non-invasive app

to get the information, but this item makes a copy/paste output that can be added to any post.


I've already researched somewhat about the model build year MacBook in question. The main

issue would be to see what's going on inside the unit now, since a problem now certainly would

need to be resolved prior to any new OS X installation. Also, once you upgrade to a later OS X

there is a good chance many of the older applications will also need newer replacements.


Good luck! 🙂

Jun 2, 2016 10:41 AM in response to K Shaffer

this is what I got. What can I do now? Thanks.

EtreCheck version: 2.9.12 (265)

Report generated 2016-06-02 13:37:55

Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

Runtime 3:47

Performance: Good


Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

Click the [Remove] links to remove adware.


Problem: Apps are crashing

Description:

appp store closed by itself when i did the capitan upgrade


Hardware Information:

MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2010)

[Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

MacBook - model: MacBook7,1

1 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

2 GB RAM - Insufficient RAM!

BANK 0/DIMM0

1 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

1 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 672


Video Information:

NVIDIA GeForce 320M - VRAM: 256 MB

Color LCD 1280 x 800

spdisplays_display_connector


System Software:

OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.8 (10K549) - Time since boot: about one hour


Disk Information:

Hitachi HTS545025B9SA02 disk0 : (232.89 GB) (Rotational)

- (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 249.72 GB (89.37 GB free)


HL-DT-ST DVDRW GS23N ()


USB Information:

Apple Inc. BRCM2070 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Inc. Built-in iSight


Adware:

~/Library/Caches/com.apple.Safari/Extensions/Omnibar.safariextension

~/Library/Safari/Extensions/Omnibar.safariextz

2 adware files found. [Remove]


System Launch Agents:

[not loaded] 3 Apple tasks

[loaded] 65 Apple tasks

[running] 7 Apple tasks


System Launch Daemons:

[not loaded] 47 Apple tasks

[loaded] 94 Apple tasks

[running] 26 Apple tasks


Launch Agents:

[loaded] com.citrix.AuthManager_Mac.plist (2013-10-22) [Support]

[running] com.citrix.ReceiverHelper.plist (2013-10-22) [Support]

[running] com.citrix.ServiceRecords.plist (2013-10-22) [Support]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2016-03-02) [Support]


Launch Daemons:

[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-05-09) [Support]

[loaded] com.apple.third_party_32b_kext_logger.plist

[running] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2016-03-02) [Support]



Other Apps:

[running] [0x0-0x49049].com.google.Chrome

[running] [0x0-0x4d04d].com.etresoft.EtreCheck

[loaded] 219 Apple tasks

[running] 57 Apple tasks


Internet Plug-ins:

JavaAppletPlugin: 13.9.8 - SDK 10.6 (2012-07-16) Check version

FlashPlayer-10.6: 21.0.0.242 - SDK 10.6 (2016-05-12) [Support]

QuickTime Plugin: 7.6.6 (2013-09-27)

Flash Player: 21.0.0.242 - SDK 10.6 (2016-05-12) [Support]

CitrixICAClientPlugIn: 11.8.2 - SDK 10.7 (2013-10-22) [Support]

Google Earth Web Plug-in: 7.1 (2015-08-13) [Support]

OfficeLiveBrowserPlugin: 12.3.6 (2013-03-21) [Support]

PepperFlashPlayer: 21.0.0.242 - SDK 10.6 (2016-05-13) [Support]

Silverlight: 5.1.10411.0 - SDK 10.6 (2012-06-20) [Support]

iPhotoPhotocast: 7.0 (2010-10-16)


Safari Extensions:

Omnibar - InstallMac - http://www.installmac.com/faq#omnibar (2014-02-11) Adware! [Remove]


Audio Plug-ins:

iSightAudio: 7.6.6 (2013-09-27)


3rd Party Preference Panes:

Flash Player (2016-05-09) [Support]


Time Machine:

Time Machine information requires OS X 10.8 "Mountain Lion" or later.


Top Processes by CPU:

6% WindowServer

6% mdworker(2)

3% mds

1% ps

1% fontd


Top Processes by Memory:

162 MB Google Chrome Helper(2)

127 MB Google Chrome

57 MB InstallAssistant

49 MB Finder

47 MB mds


Virtual Memory Information:

178 MB Free RAM

1.82 GB Used RAM

11 MB Swap Used


Diagnostics Information:

Jun 2, 2016, 11:51:30 AM Self test - passed

Jun 2, 2016, 08:41:40 AM /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ksfetch_2016-06-02-084140_[redacted].crash

/private/tmp/KSOutOfProcessFetcher.0.ppfIhqX0vjaTSb8AJYobDV7**68=/ksfetch

Jun 2, 2016, 08:41:40 AM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-06-02-084140_[redacted].crash

Jun 1, 2016, 08:44:45 PM ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/App Store_2016-06-01-204445_[redacted].crash

com.apple.appstore - /Applications/App Store.app/Contents/MacOS/App Store

Jun 1, 2016, 08:44:29 PM ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/App Store_2016-06-01-204429_[redacted].crash

Jun 1, 2016, 03:20:38 PM /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ksfetch_2016-06-01-152038_[redacted].crash

Jun 1, 2016, 03:20:38 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-06-01-152038_[redacted].crash

May 30, 2016, 10:00:39 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/ksfetch_2016-05-30-220039_[redacted].crash

May 30, 2016, 10:00:39 PM /Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ksfetch_2016-05-30-220039_[redacted].crash

Jun 2, 2016 1:08 PM in response to K Shaffer

Hi again. I went back to upgrade again and it worked. Got a little curious. A second time can never hurt. Now however, I installed Capitan but everything is so slow. Even when I open Safari or Chrime, the little icon bounces on the dock forever!!!! Then my "iPhoto" is gone and so are all my very organized folders in the finder. Going to the Genius Bar tomorrow. If it's possible, can you give me the link to the new capitan manual? Thanks so much. I dint have the patience right now.

Jun 2, 2016 4:35 PM in response to nature_girl75

The slowness of the computer now it is running a newer (larger footprint, hungry for resources) system

is due in part to a need to have more physical RAM memory; the memory chips are upgradable through

replacement of both chips to higher capacity.


Also, the larger system upgrade files (plus slow internet download speeds, esp. if using Wi-Fi and not

Ethernet cable) were likely some of the reason why the upgrade was slow to load.


Another aspect of system function may be due to a need for OS X to use hard drive capacity as virtual

memory when there is insufficient installed Chip RAM. The drive has to read+write temp files to the

hard drive, and this is much slower than on the logic board between memory chips and the processor.

So with more chip RAM installed, there should be significantly less writing to the hard drive of swap files.


MacBook )13-inch, Mid 2010)

Introduced May 2010

Discontinued July 2011

Model Identifier MacBook7,1

Model Number A1342

EMC 2395

Order Number MC516LL/A


Maximum Memory 16 GB (Actual) -- 4 GB (Apple) original spec

Memory Slots 2 - 204-pin PC3-8500 (1066MHz) DDR3 SO-DIMM



• MacBook: How to remove or install memory - Apple Support


{Given your computer should have at least 8GB RAM installed to do justice with El Capitan

and the computer can use up to 16GB (two 8GB chips) the hardware now needs upgrade.}


The OS X Help can be found in among the Apple Menu bar items, the main window named Finder, the

far right item is Help. Note there should be a few ways to use it. The features of OS X El Capitan should

be where the information was in the Snow Leopard system. It used a similar Help.


Web pages in Apple Support (under OS X) can be helpful;

Mac - Official Apple Support


OS X - Apple Support:

http://www.apple.com/support/osx/


Also, separately there are different locations for OS X and Apps online.

Mac Help: http://help.apple.com/machelp/mac/10.11/#/


The internal hard drive could likely see an upgrade to a higher capacity and/or faster data speed;

this could enhance the usefulness of the later OS X and work better when using applications too.


An upgrade to a newer OS X and later applications, usually requires more system resources; so

additional upgrade in hardware should be expected. At some point, when you get used to reading

the specifications and minimal ones required for the computer to start up (no load) then add more

for the unit to be able to do more than sit at an idle... should mean something. If you choose at

some point to get a newer computer (as an upgrade, to run later software) consider these things;

the new models are shipped the the RAM memory soldered to logic board, so aren't upgradeable.


You'd have to know in advance what kind of load your work expectation would put on the unit, and

be able to purchase more processing power (with memory and drive, CPU, GPU, etc) known so

the investment would be practical and not too slow. The end user has few or no upgrades, with a

newer Mac, with few exceptions. With new ones, you buy the build and that is the upgrade path.


To get an use a suitable external storage drive for Time Machine backups, is an important thing to

do; also a separate drive to save excess storage to, and then you could remove files from the Mac

knowing you have a copy on the external. This would free up and let the Mac run better. You would

have to purchase additional external storage options. Fair examples are at OWC macsales.com

{OWC also has the correct spec quality memory chip upgrade parts, & guarantees them.}


The Etrecheck report shows some items that were in your Snow Leopard OS X 10.6.8, some of

them including adware, may or may not have made the trip to the newer El Capitan. That's some

thing to watch out for. You can avoid troubles by being careful what you click on; and avoid the

products such as cleanmymac, mackeeper, and other troublesome hyped junkware. Also, try &

avoid the trap of buying into antivirus since most AV apps use system resources and have nothing

to discover. There are few to none virus and most of the products would be late to the party if there

were anything; Apple OS X is better at protection. (Extensions in browsers can be problematic; a

few that affect Safari or others may give you fits; I've seen nothing much personally, but I am rather

pragmatic and do not believe everything I read; so I will not click on offers too good to be true, etc.


A second Etrecheck report may be an OK thing to run. Oh, some of the slowness in your Mac now

may be due to stuff that sometimes gets brought over into a new OS X from the old OS X. And a

fair amount of that may not work, because it pre-dates the latest function and software now available.

So it's usually good to have a Time Machine backup, and migrate only practical useful item over to

a computer after an upgrade to a newer system. (There is a ton of stuff to learn about; but helpful.)


Anyway, here's some things to read though. Note the examples of external storage options and

internal upgrade storage options for Mac portables, plus memory RAM chip, etc at OWC.


A fair way to search for upgrade parts:

https://eshop.macsales.com/MyOWC/


RAM upgrades for MacBook (see your MacBook7.1 among those listed here) for parts/specs:

https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Apple_MacBook_MacBook_Pro/Upgrade/DDR3_Wh ite


I've added to this post so it's a bit long now. Hopefully you don't fall asleep reading, or get too bored!


In any event...

Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Jun 3, 2016 1:30 AM in response to nature_girl75

The original install DVD media that shipped with the computer, (wasn't it a Snow Leopard

version?) would be the path to get it back to were it was. Not sure if a Genius would be

able to commit the time to attempt to revert the computer for you. You can always take

along the original disk media and ask if the Genius could help reinstall the old system &

the original applications, if you have the system discs. They may be able to do that.


At this point, if you has the means to create a backup (archive, clone, etc) of the running

El Capitan 10.11.5 now that you have it, that would save you the trouble of getting it again.

And a clone would be able to run the computer.


{The adware should not have made the upgrade path, unless the junk you had on board

was considered your own custom content per user account, but an Etrecheck report and

the use of that app, can help be rid of adware. Read how to use it in the instructions.}


Several things that could have been done, or researched to understand how to perform them

ahead of an upgrade (software and hardware) could have made this an easier process.


The original bundled software on grey labelled DVD media should allow you to re-install all

of the system; it had Snow Leopard OS X 10.6 (in version for the MacBook) along with the

software included when new. Stuff you'd have to buy upgrade versions from the App Store

to use with El Capitan, since the new OS X does not include all those extra applications.


iLife '09 and iWorks probably were included in the original disc set.


What may be a problem, is that some older computers balk when asked to go back and may

not prefer to use those original disc installers after a major upgrade to an all new system.


You may consider inquiring about another brand of memory chip (from Crucial.com) and use

their web site to help see what part number they have that would fit your MacBook. They may

be less costly than the OWC macsales chips. You could get 2x 4GB chips, for less an upgrade.


Anyway, if the Genius can help re-install the original Snow Leopard and the applications that

MacBook shipped with, and see that it runs up OK, then it would also be in a good state to

consider selling. The costs to upgrade the hardware would not be too bad, if you can use a

repair guide to replace the parts yourself. If you have to pay, then consider locating a second

already upgraded computer instead; especially if its a MacBook Pro (Late 2012) non-retina

or newer. Hard to recommend anything at this time. There are plenty of sources of information

to read to understand specs of these devices. Everymac.com, powerbookmedic.com, and the

iFixit.com repair guides for Mac are good. And the Apple Store online, refurbished section.


Good luck & happy computing! 🙂

Jun 4, 2016 9:13 PM in response to nature_girl75

You uninstalled Chrome correctly, if you do a spotlight search and it isn't there, it's gone. There might be a few chrome apps you could get rid of that would be in your library folder under chrome, but those wouldn't be causing any issues. I'm running el capitan on a mid 2009 macbook which has even lower specs than yours, and it runs pretty good for me. I upgraded the RAM to 3gb, and that helped substantially. You are running on bare minimum ram, so it would be wise to upgrade. You would be better off sticking to el capitan at this point because Snow Leopard has lost all support from apple, and most apps are becoming unsupported too.

Jun 5, 2016 7:33 AM in response to Dastumer

Thanks. I will do a spotlight search to double check for Chrome. I was advised at the Genius Bar to get more memory. BTW, the authorized Apple dealer guy told me he had to uninstall the original 2 GB that came with the Macbook (purchased Oct. 2010) before he could give me the 4 GB. I thought I would've had 6 GB, but no, got 4 GB. Ugh. Annoying. Now I should go back and by 2 more GB. I was happy with the price though. I paid $60 for 4 GB. I was thinking like $200. I had no idea obviously. How did you get an odd # of 3 RAM? I got the impression they are sold in sets of 2 GB. I guess it doesn't matter. Thx again.

Jun 6, 2016 3:23 AM in response to nature_girl75

Per database download from http://mactracker.ca for your build model version MacBook:


Maximum Memory 16 GB (Actual) -- 4 GB (Apple) original spec

Memory Slots 2 - 204-pin PC3-8500 (1066MHz) DDR3 SO-DIMM


• MacBook: How to remove or install memory - Apple Support


With El Capitan, you'd find better performance with at least 2 x 4GB (8GB Total) or more.


A minimum capacity of memory may be OK if the MacBook is at an idle. Also, because

the computer will automatically use 'free hard drive capacity' as Virtual Memory, to some

extent and that is slower (read-write to hard drive vs. speed of electricity through a chip)

the upgrade in RAM memory is worth the small expense. Prices of RAM are lower now.


The link to Apple Support page shows the two-memory slots; total capacity was upgraded.


{Based on information contained in the Etrecheck report from the MacBook, info

on memory upgrade spec provided above and in my earlier reply, is still accurate.}


Good luck in this matter! 🙂

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