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Q: Certain files are left behind when copying a project. Why ?

When I copy a project with the purpose of backing it up on another HD, it leaves out the pictures, voice overs, music and also some video.

The point is: I want to back-up my project in one move, so without having to identify 'missing files',  copying the folders with those contents seperatly and then relink them. How can I do this ? Why doesn't FCP bring all the files in ?

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Posted on Jun 3, 2016 9:17 AM

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  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jun 3, 2016 9:18 AM in response to Camrock
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    Jun 3, 2016 9:18 AM in response to Camrock

    WWhen you say you're copying a project from one drive to another what exactly are you doing? Are you using managed media or external medIa?

  • by David Bogie Chq-1,

    David Bogie Chq-1 David Bogie Chq-1 Jun 3, 2016 9:48 AM in response to Camrock
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    Jun 3, 2016 9:48 AM in response to Camrock

    Like Tom says, we need more information. You say "project" but FCPX deals with libraries that contain projects. Moving a project to another drive is a different operation than backing up a library.

  • by Camrock,

    Camrock Camrock Jun 3, 2016 9:52 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jun 3, 2016 9:52 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Hi Tom,

     

    Now that my film is finished, I want to back it up. Just the film, so just one project, not all the other stuff which I don't need anymore. These are in let's call it my work-library.

    So I have a new hardrive on which I made a new library for my final film. Now I copied my final film project from my work-library to the back-up library on the new drive. When doing this, FCP asks if you want to copy optimized and proxy media. I add optimized media, not the proxy media. But it only moves the video, not all the stuff I mentioned before, and it also leaves out a couple of clips, which were added later into the project.

    Isn't that weird ?!

    By the way, I haven't manage to solve the copy-paste problem either . As a matter of fact, I have loads of stuff which I find odd in FCP, like how working in the secondary storyline, really differs from working in the primary if you want to use shortcuts. Could I make a list for you ?

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jun 3, 2016 10:27 AM in response to Camrock
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    Jun 3, 2016 10:27 AM in response to Camrock

    Managed media or eternal media?

     

    I haven't been able to reproduce it with a simple test. What video's missing? Anything different about it?

     

    What's the copy/paste problem? Yes please, would love to see your list.

  • by Camrock,

    Camrock Camrock Jun 3, 2016 10:39 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jun 3, 2016 10:39 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Okay....guys. Maybe it has got something to do with the fact that my work-library sits on external HD1 and part of hte footage which i have impoerted into my work library sits on external HD2 ? Just thinking out loud. The 'newer' footage, which is part the footage that is left out, sits on HD2. It still doesn't make sense, because it doesn't account for the pictures which I have been using since the beginning....but maybe I'm on the right track..

    Does FCP optimize pictures and audio, like it does with video ?

  • by Camrock,

    Camrock Camrock Jun 3, 2016 12:45 PM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jun 3, 2016 12:45 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Hi guys,

     

    I have made another copy of my library with that single final project in it,

    on a second backup drive, let's call this drive HD4. I copied that from back up drive HD3.

    On that first backupdrive, HD3, I have the library with that single final project I want AND all the seperate folders with the pictures, Voice-overs, music, logo's. (Which I had to copy from my work drive HD2 and relink to that single final project and what I didn't want to have to do).

     

    When I open my project on HD4, it does not contain my pictures, mpg vidoe, music, voice-overs and so on. Only the AVCHD footage in which I shot most of the film.

     

    I've looked into the contents of the library via the finder. What I see is this: for most of the (AVCHD) footage and some of the GoPro footage, not all, it creates a real movie file, the high quality media/Prores. In FCP I imported pictures (png,jpeg), audiofiles (wav), video (mpg). If I look into the Transcoded media folder and then into the High Quality media folder I see that these files are not being transcoded as such, but that they only get an alias. So they only have a reference to files in the pictures, movie, logo music and folders, which lie out of the library.

     

    This is crazy.

    I have always assumed that the library bundle contains ALL the footage you work with in your library and that copying a library or a project would include all these files, but apparently and unfortunately this is not the case. FCP X is supposed to make my editlife easier, not harder.

    Also, having to move all these extra folders takes up a lot of space.

    So what is going on ?

  • by Tom Wolsky,Solvedanswer

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jun 3, 2016 12:50 PM in response to Camrock
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    Jun 3, 2016 12:50 PM in response to Camrock

    So you are using managed media not external media I take it. Did you ever use the leave in place function when you imported stuff? I'd go to the work library and consolidate it to make sure everything is in the library and then check the Finder locations for problem material.

  • by Camrock,

    Camrock Camrock Jun 3, 2016 1:04 PM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jun 3, 2016 1:04 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

    What do you mean with 'managed media' and 'external media' ?

  • by Camrock,

    Camrock Camrock Jun 3, 2016 1:08 PM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jun 3, 2016 1:08 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

    And how can I consolidate the library ?

  • by Camrock,

    Camrock Camrock Jun 3, 2016 1:10 PM in response to Camrock
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    Jun 3, 2016 1:10 PM in response to Camrock

    I found it ! Hope this solves it, I'll let you know !

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jun 3, 2016 1:19 PM in response to Camrock
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    Jun 3, 2016 1:19 PM in response to Camrock

    Managed media means the media is in the library. External media means the media is outside of the library.

     

    http://www.fcpxbook.com/articles/managed-and-external-media.html

  • by Camrock,

    Camrock Camrock Jun 3, 2016 1:33 PM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jun 3, 2016 1:33 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Yeah I see the files in the library bundle now, thanks Tom !

     

    So these are some issue is haven't solved yet:

     

    - I want to select part of the project and copy it in another project. It has to include connected clips/storylines. When I use in and out points, it only copies the primary storyline, not the connected clips.

     

    - Is there a way to select the secondary storyline with a shortcut ?  Let's say I'd want to make an in and out with shortcuts in a secondary storyline. How do I do that ? Or select an edit in a secondary storyline only using shortcuts ?

     

    - Also how can I select for example only the video roles and title roles and leave out the soundrole, to copy it into another project (as you would do with tracks before).

     

    - How can I select the videorole, which has camerasound attached to it, how can I select it, without the sound, in a quick and easy way, to copy it to another project ?

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jun 3, 2016 1:51 PM in response to Camrock
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    Jun 3, 2016 1:51 PM in response to Camrock
    - I want to select part of the project and copy it in another project. It has to include connected clips/storylines. When I use in and out points, it only copies the primary storyline, not the connected clips.


    You can't really select an I/O that's in mid-clip. You can select clips, either by drag selecting, or by using the timeline index. The index lists the clips in the order they appear in the project. You can shift-click to select a range of clips and they're selected in the timeline.


     

    - Is there a way to select the secondary storyline with a shortcut ?  Let's say I'd want to make an in and out with shortcuts in a secondary storyline. How do I do that ? Or select an edit in a secondary storyline only using shortcuts ?

     


    You can't mark I/O in a secondary. To select an edit move the playhead to the edit and press either [ ] or \.

     

    - Also how can I select for example only the video roles and title roles and leave out the soundrole, to copy it into another project (as you would do with tracks before).

     

    - How can I select the videorole, which has camerasound attached to it, how can I select it, without the sound, in a quick and easy way, to copy it to another project ?

     

    Don't know how you do those.

  • by Tom Wolsky,Helpful

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jun 4, 2016 10:04 AM in response to Camrock
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    Jun 4, 2016 10:04 AM in response to Camrock

    This may help. In the timeline index in clips, right-click in the column headers and select roles. You can then search by roles and select items based on roles. Don't think you can separate video/dialogue if they're in the same clip.

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