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Q: Macbook pro unusably slow - Apple premium resellers can't even find the issue

Hi!

 

After I updated my OS X to Mavericks (like one year ago) my Macbook pro late 2008 started to run really slow. I'm currently running the 10.9.5 version. At the startup and for the 5 first minutes the computer works fine, but after approximately 5-10 minutes the computer starts to run really slow. For instance, I am currently only using safari with two windows open, and 100 % of my processor is being used while the fan is running wild. If I for example would open Microsoft word now I would even have a delay on every letter I write, so the computer is practically unusable. This means that the computer must be restarted every single time I have to do a new task, or even open a new website...

 

To resolve this problem I went to an Apple Premium Reseller. They told me that my problem probably was that something had went wrong during my OS X upgrade from Applestore, so they tried to reinstall Mavericks on my HDD but the problem remained. Afterwards they made a scan through the computer, which showed no signs of problems. So, since the Apple Premium Resellers couldn't help me I tried to fix it myself:

 

  • I updated my ram from 1gb to 8 gb. Still the problem remained.
  • I updated my HDD to an SSD and installed a fresh Mavericks 10.9.5. Still the problem remained.

 

Any ideas of what can fix this computer? Before I updated my HDD to an SSD I tried reseting PRAM, SMC etc. but nothing seems to work! Please help me, otherwise I will have to go back to using PC's again until my studies are over!!!

 

Best regards

Marcus

MacBook Pro, OS X Mavericks (10.9.5)

Posted on Jun 4, 2016 3:30 AM

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  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Jun 4, 2016 3:54 AM in response to tasteit
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    Jun 4, 2016 3:54 AM in response to tasteit

    Download and post an Etrecheck report:

     

    http://www.etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    Ciao.

  • by tasteit,

    tasteit tasteit Jun 4, 2016 4:01 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
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    Jun 4, 2016 4:01 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    Okay, the following information appeared:

     

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.9.12 (265)

    Report generated 2016-06-04 12:58:59

    Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 1:55

    Performance: Excellent

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: Computer is too slow

     

    Hardware Information:

        MacBook (13-inch, Aluminum, Late 2008)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        MacBook - model: MacBook5,1

        1 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

        8 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

            BANK 0/DIMM1

                4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

        Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 623

     

    Video Information:

        NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

     

    System Software:

        OS X Mavericks 10.9.5 (13F34) - Time since boot: less than an hour

     

    Disk Information:

        SAMSUNG SSD PM830 2.5" 7mm 128GB disk0 : (128,04 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: No)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Solid State Hard Drive (disk0s2) / : 127.18 GB (113.02 GB free)

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

        HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GS21N   ()

     

    USB Information:

        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

        Apple, Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

        Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

    Gatekeeper:

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    System Launch Agents:

        [not loaded]    4 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    145 Apple tasks

        [running]    34 Apple tasks

     

    System Launch Daemons:

        [failed]    com.apple.ucupdate.plist

        [not loaded]    50 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    142 Apple tasks

        [running]    55 Apple tasks

     

     

    Other Apps:

        [running]    [0x0-0x1b01b].com.etresoft.EtreCheck

        [loaded]    426 Apple tasks

        [running]    262 Apple tasks

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

        Default Browser: 537 - SDK 10.9 (2016-06-04)

        QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-06-04)

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

        None

     

    Time Machine:

        Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

             2%    fontd

             2%    WindowServer

             1%    kernel_task

             0%    imagent

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

        390 MB    kernel_task

        131 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

        131 MB    Safari

        123 MB    com.apple.IconServicesAgent

        98 MB    CVMCompiler(3)

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

        5.21 GB    Free RAM

        2.79 GB    Used RAM (1.44 GB Cached)

        0 B    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information:

        Jun 4, 2016, 12:54:02 PM    Self test - passed

     

     

    Grazie per l'aiuto!

    /Marcus

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Jun 4, 2016 4:13 AM in response to tasteit
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    Mac OS X
    Jun 4, 2016 4:13 AM in response to tasteit

    Reset the SMC again:

     

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295

     

    If the fans do not stop spinning at maximum speed, run an Apple Hardware Test:

     

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201257

     

    Note that an error free AHT is not conclusive.

     

    It might be a good idea to open the MBP and check if there is dust and debris inside.

     

    Ciao.

  • by Esquared,

    Esquared Esquared Jun 4, 2016 4:15 AM in response to tasteit
    Level 6 (8,518 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jun 4, 2016 4:15 AM in response to tasteit

    Was your Mac slow when you made this report? Doesn't look like it: there's nothing much installed on it. Could you make another report as soon as the slowness starts?

  • by tasteit,

    tasteit tasteit Jun 4, 2016 4:38 AM in response to Esquared
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    Notebooks
    Jun 4, 2016 4:38 AM in response to Esquared

    Hi and thank you for your replies!

     

    Thats correct Esquared, I had just restarted the computer before I ran the Etrecheck report and therefore it was working quite ok! Here comes a new report from the computer after having the system running for approximately 10 min, which makes the computer slow as described:

     

     

    EtreCheck version: 2.9.12 (265)

    Report generated 2016-06-04 13:35:03

    Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 7:08

    Performance: Below Average

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: Computer is too slow

     

    Hardware Information:

        MacBook (13-inch, Aluminum, Late 2008)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        MacBook - model: MacBook5,1

        1 2 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU: 2-core

        8 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

            BANK 0/DIMM1

                4 GB DDR3 1067 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Old - Handoff/Airdrop2 not supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

        Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 623

     

    Video Information:

        NVIDIA GeForce 9400M - VRAM: 256 MB

            Color LCD 1280 x 800

     

    System Software:

        OS X Mavericks 10.9.5 (13F34) - Time since boot: less than an hour

     

    Disk Information:

        SAMSUNG SSD PM830 2.5" 7mm 128GB disk0 : (128,04 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: No)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Solid State Hard Drive (disk0s2) / : 127.18 GB (112.89 GB free)

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

        HL-DT-ST DVDRW  GS21N   ()

     

    USB Information:

        Apple Inc. Built-in iSight

        Apple, Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver

        Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

     

    Gatekeeper:

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    System Launch Agents:

        [not loaded]    4 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    143 Apple tasks

        [running]    36 Apple tasks

     

    System Launch Daemons:

        [not loaded]    50 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    142 Apple tasks

        [running]    56 Apple tasks

     

    User Login Items:

        iTunesHelper    Program  (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

     

    Other Apps:

        [running]    com.etresoft.EtreCheck.26784

        [loaded]    431 Apple tasks

        [running]    299 Apple tasks

     

    Internet Plug-ins:

        Default Browser: 537 - SDK 10.9 (2016-06-04)

        QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-06-04)

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes:

        None

     

    Time Machine:

        Time Machine not configured!

     

    Top Processes by CPU:

             4%    WindowServer

             3%    hidd

             3%    ps

             2%    kernel_task

             2%    TextEdit

     

    Top Processes by Memory:

        827 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(2)

        452 MB    kernel_task

        172 MB    Safari

        139 MB    iTunes

        98 MB    com.apple.IconServicesAgent

     

    Virtual Memory Information:

        4.13 GB    Free RAM

        3.86 GB    Used RAM (1.00 GB Cached)

        0 B    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information:

        Jun 4, 2016, 01:18:38 PM    Self test - passed

     

     

     

    I will now try to reset the SMC again as OGELTHORPE recommended.

    Thanks again, grazie mille!
    /Marcus

  • by tasteit,

    tasteit tasteit Jun 4, 2016 5:00 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
    Level 1 (12 points)
    Notebooks
    Jun 4, 2016 5:00 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    I have now tried to both reset SMC and to clean the computer inside. I didn't see any dust etc. I blowed in the fan anyway just to be sure. After this the Mac was fast as always the first 5 min, but after that it goes back to being really slow as before...

     

    /Marcus

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Jun 4, 2016 5:03 AM in response to tasteit
    Level 9 (52,776 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jun 4, 2016 5:03 AM in response to tasteit

    Boot into the recovery partition and from thr 4 option menu select Disk Utility.

     

    Run Disk Utility>First Aid>Repair,

     

    Do run the AHT.

     

    Do you have TRIM installed?

     

    Ciao.

  • by tasteit,

    tasteit tasteit Jun 4, 2016 5:34 AM in response to OGELTHORPE
    Level 1 (12 points)
    Notebooks
    Jun 4, 2016 5:34 AM in response to OGELTHORPE

    I tried to repair the SSD but was told that it was free of problems.

     

    I also tried to run the AHT but I did not success! I have restarted the computer four times now, holding the D-key or the options+D-key at the startup, but the AHT does not run for some reason...

     

    Regarding the TRIM I don't think it is installed, I formated the SSD yesterday and have not installed anything since. By the way I'm actually not really sure of what TRIM is. The EtreCheck report told me the following:

     

    Disk Information:

        SAMSUNG SSD PM830 2.5" 7mm 128GB disk0 : (128,04 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: No)

     

    Is TRIM something I should try to install?

     

    /Marcus

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Jun 4, 2016 5:43 AM in response to tasteit
    Level 9 (52,776 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jun 4, 2016 5:43 AM in response to tasteit

    In regards to TRIM, please read this:

     

    http://osxdaily.com/2015/10/29/use-trimforce-trim-ssd-mac-os-x/

     

    In regards to the AHT, use the #2 installation disk that came with the MBP.  It has the AHT instructions written on it.

     

    Ciao.

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 4, 2016 6:05 AM in response to tasteit
    Level 10 (208,037 points)
    Applications
    Jun 4, 2016 6:05 AM in response to tasteit

    When you see a beachball cursor or the slowness is especially bad, note the exact time: hour, minute, second.  

    These instructions must be carried out as an administrator. If you have only one user account, you are the administrator.

    Launch the Console application in any one of the following ways:

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

    ☞ Open LaunchPad and start typing the name.

    The title of the Console window should be All Messages. If it isn't, select

              SYSTEM LOG QUERIES All Messages

    from the log list on the left. If you don't see that list, select

              View Show Log List

    from the menu bar at the top of the screen.

    Each message in the log begins with the date and time when it was entered. Scroll back to the time you noted above.

    Select the messages entered from then until the end of the episode, or until they start to repeat, whichever comes first.

    Copy the messages to the Clipboard by pressing the key combination command-C. Paste into a reply to this message by pressing command-V.

    The log contains a vast amount of information, almost all of it useless for solving any particular problem. When posting a log extract, be selective. A few dozen lines are almost always more than enough.

    Please don't indiscriminately dump thousands of lines from the log into this discussion.

    Please don't post screenshots of log messages—post the text.

    Some private information, such as your name, may appear in the log. Anonymize before posting.

    When you post the log extract, you might see an error message on the web page: "You have included content in your post that is not permitted," or "The message contains invalid characters." That's a bug in the forum software. Please post the text on Pastebin, then post a link here to the page you created.

    If you have an account on Pastebin, please don't select Private from the Paste Exposure menu on the page, because then no one but you will be able to see it.

  • by tasteit,

    tasteit tasteit Jun 4, 2016 6:32 AM in response to Linc Davis
    Level 1 (12 points)
    Notebooks
    Jun 4, 2016 6:32 AM in response to Linc Davis

    Since I don't have the installation CD's I'm currently working on finding a way doing the AHT with a USB-drive.

     

    Regarding the Console Application I found it a bit difficult to pick out what information that possibly could be of value. The computer is kind of slow all the time, especially when I open new applications, internet windows, programs etc. I posted three messages in this following link that came up when I tried to open a program: http://pastebin.com/prViQ0Xa

  • by Linc Davis,

    Linc Davis Linc Davis Jun 4, 2016 6:39 AM in response to tasteit
    Level 10 (208,037 points)
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    Jun 4, 2016 6:39 AM in response to tasteit

    1. This procedure is a diagnostic test. It changes nothing, for better or worse, and therefore will not, in itself, solve the problem. But with the aid of the test results, the solution may take a few minutes, instead of hours or days.

    The test works on OS X 10.8 ("Mountain Lion") and later. I don't recommend running it on older versions of OS X. It will do no harm, but it won't do much good either.

    Don't be put off by the complexity of these instructions. The procedure is easy to do right, but it's also easy to do wrong, so I've made the instructions very detailed. You do harder tasks with the computer all the time.

    2. If you don't already have a current backup, please back up all data before doing anything else. The backup is necessary on general principle, not because of anything in the test procedure. Backup is always a must, and when you're having any kind of trouble with the computer, you may be at higher than usual risk of losing data, whether you follow these instructions or not.

    There are ways to back up a computer that isn't fully functional. Ask if you need guidance.

    3. Below are instructions to run a UNIX shell script, a type of program. As I wrote above, it changes nothing. It doesn't send or receive any data on the network. All it does is to generate a human-readable report on the state of the computer. That report goes nowhere unless you choose to share it. If you prefer, you can act on it yourself without disclosing the contents to me or anyone else.

    You should be wondering whether you can believe me, and whether it's safe to run a program at the behest of a stranger. In general, no, it's not safe and I don't encourage it.

    In this case, however, there are ways for you to decide whether the program is safe without having to trust me. First, you can read it. Unlike an application that you download and click to run, it's transparent, so anyone who understands the code can verify what it does.

    You may not be able to understand the script yourself. But variations of it have been posted on this website many times over a period of years. Any one of the millions of registered users could have read the script and raised the alarm if it was harmful. Then I would not be here now and you would not be reading this message. See, for example, this discussion.

    Nevertheless, if you can't satisfy yourself that these instructions are safe, don't follow them. Ask for other options.

    4. Here's a general summary of what you need to do, if you choose to proceed:

    ☞ Copy the text of a particular web page (not this one) to the Clipboard.

    ☞ Paste into the window of another application.

    ☞ Wait for the test to run. It usually takes a few minutes.

    ☞ Paste the results, which will have been copied automatically, back into a reply on this page.

    These are not specific instructions; just an overview. The details are in parts 7 and 8 of this comment. The sequence is: copy, paste, wait, paste again. You don't need to copy a second time.

    5. Try to test under conditions that reproduce the problem, as far as possible. For example, if the computer is intermittently slow, run the test during a slowdown.

    You may have started up in safe mode. If the system is now in safe mode and works well enough in normal mode to run the test, restart as usual before running it. If you can only test in safe mode, do that.

    6. If you have more than one user, and only one user is affected by the problem,, and the affected user is not an administrator, then please run the test twice: once while logged in as the affected user, and once as an administrator. The results may be different. The user that is created automatically on a new computer when you start it for the first time is an administrator. If you can't log in as an administrator, test as the affected user. Most personal Macs have only one user, and in that case this section doesn’t apply. Don't log in as root.

    7. Load this linked web page (on the website "Pastebin") in Safari. Press the key combination command-A to select all the text, then copy it to the Clipboard by pressing command-C.

    8. Launch the built-in Terminal application in any one of the following ways:

    ☞ Enter the first few letters of its name ("Terminal") into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

    ☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

    ☞ Open LaunchPad and start typing the name.

    Click anywhere in the Terminal window to activate it. Paste from the Clipboard into the window by pressing command-V, then press return. The text you pasted should vanish immediately.

    9. If you're logged in as an administrator, you'll be prompted for your login password. Nothing will be displayed when you type it. You will not see the usual dots in place of typed characters. Make sure caps lock is off. Type carefully and then press return. You may get a one-time warning to be careful. If you make three failed attempts to enter the password, the test will run anyway, but it will produce less information. If you don't know the password, or if you prefer not to enter it, just press return three times at the password prompt. Again, the script will still run.

    If the test is taking much longer than usual to run because the computer is very slow, you might be prompted for your password a second time. The authorization that you grant by entering it expires automatically after five minutes.

    If you're not logged in as an administrator, you won't be prompted for a password. The test will still run. It just won't do anything that requires administrator privileges.

    10. The test may take a few minutes to run, depending on how many files you have and the speed of the computer. A computer that's abnormally slow may take longer to run the test. While it's running, a series of lines will appear in the Terminal window like this:

        Test started
            Part 1 of 4 done at: … sec
            …
            Part 4 of 4 done at: … sec
        The test results are on the Clipboard.
        Please close this window.

    The intervals between parts won't be exactly equal, but they give a rough indication of progress.

    Wait for the final message "Please close this window" to appear—again, usually within a few minutes. If you don't see that message within about 30 minutes, the test probably won't complete in a reasonable time. In that case, press the key combination control-C or command-period to stop it. Then go to the next step. You'll have incomplete results, but still something.

    In order to get results, the test must either be allowed to complete or else manually stopped as above. If you close the Terminal window while the test is still running, the partial results won't be saved.

    11. When the test is complete, or if you stopped it manually, quit Terminal. The results will have been saved to the Clipboard automatically. They are not shown in the Terminal window. Please don't copy anything from there. All you have to do is start a reply to this comment and then paste by pressing command-V again.

    At the top of the results, there will be a line that begins with the words "Start time." If you don't see that, but instead see a mass of gibberish, you didn't wait for the "close this window" message. Please wait for it and try again.

    If any private information, such as your name or email address, appears in the results, anonymize it before posting. Usually that won't be necessary.

    12. When you post the results, you might see an error message on the web page: "You have included content in your post that is not permitted," or "The message contains invalid characters." That's a bug in the software that runs this website. Please post the test results on Pastebin, then post a link here to the page you created.

    If you have an account on Pastebin, please don't select Private from the Paste Exposure menu on the page, because then no one but you will be able to see it.

    13. When you're done with the test, it's gone. There is nothing to uninstall or clean up.

    14. This is a public forum, and others may give you advice based on the results of the test. They speak for themselves, not for me. The test itself is harmless, but whatever else you do may not be. For others who choose to run it, I don't recommend that you post the test results on this website unless I asked you to.

    15. The linked UNIX shell script bears a notice of copyright. Readers of ASC may copy it for their own personal use. Neither the whole nor any part may be redistributed.

  • by tasteit,

    tasteit tasteit Jun 4, 2016 7:29 AM in response to Linc Davis
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    Notebooks
    Jun 4, 2016 7:29 AM in response to Linc Davis

    I find the further descriptions too advanced for my level of knowledge, the last 15 steps and doing an AHT without a CD. I am not able to fully follow them. Therefore I have decided to demolish this Mac (with brand new 8 gb ram and SSD!) and buy a PC instead.

     

    Thanks for the help everyone!

    /Marcus

  • by OGELTHORPE,

    OGELTHORPE OGELTHORPE Jun 4, 2016 8:39 AM in response to tasteit
    Level 9 (52,776 points)
    Mac OS X
    Jun 4, 2016 8:39 AM in response to tasteit

    You can run the AHT if you download the one appropriate for your MBP here:

     

    https://github.com/upekkha/AppleHardwareTest

     

    Ciao.

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