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Q: Why can't I download OS X Yosemite from te appstore?

I have a MacBook (late 2008) w/8 GB of RAM and a 256 GB SSD which I've formatting to Mac standards.  This will be the new drive for this machine but I'm using the original 160 GB platter drive to attempt the install.  I can get to the Yosemite install screen and can sign into my Apple account and accept the terms & conditions.  I've already selected the drive to load the OS into (the MacBook Drive - which is the 160 GB platter drive).  I get a message that the item is temporarily unavailable and to try again later.  This has been the case for at least 30 attempts over the past 2 days.  Any idea of the cause?  I tried to register the MacBook to my account, but it's asking me security questions I never saw when I signed up for the account (got it some time ago for iTunes).  This is my first venture into Apple hardware (I usually work in the Windows/Microsoft world) and I must say, it's somewhat confusing.  I tried to run am search to see if this question had been answered in the past, but the search page keeps pointing me to areas which are not relevant.  Please excuse me if this issue has been answered somewhere else and my thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

MacBook, Trying to load OS X Yosemite

Posted on Jun 17, 2016 6:52 PM

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Q: Why can't I download OS X Yosemite from te appstore?

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  • by Leopardus,

    Leopardus Leopardus Jun 17, 2016 10:36 PM in response to deputy068
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    Jun 17, 2016 10:36 PM in response to deputy068

    What you have probably figured out by now is that Apple and us take the issue of personal security, and piracy of software very seriously. Do you still have the original installation disks that came with your MacBook when you bought it new?

     

    If you bought it secondhand, there was a process that had to be followed before you would be allowed to register the device and tie it to your Apple ID.

    What to do before selling or giving away your Mac - Apple Support

    Having said that, if you have paid for Yosemite, or have downloaded it before under the free upgrade program, it should appear in the App Store under your purchases and the download should proceed flawlessly.

     

    However, you did not say whether your late MB 2008 was the Aluminium version, or non-aluminium version. Only the Aluminium version will run Yosemite, or in fact the latest release of OS X. The other version has a OS 10.7.5 limit as it's maximum.

     

    One other thing, before I forget, you will have to upgrade the firmware of the MB to version 1.4 before attempting the download.

     

    HTH

     

    Leo

  • by deputy068,

    deputy068 deputy068 Jun 18, 2016 7:19 AM in response to Leopardus
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    Jun 18, 2016 7:19 AM in response to Leopardus

    Thanks for the response.  This is a second hand unibody laptop.  It has an Intel C2D chip and 8GB of DDR3 RAM.  Since I can't access any info on this computer (other than the install assistant, which goes nowhere) I have no idea if any of the actions required before selling the laptop were taken by the former owner.  Since the Apple site is asking me security questions I never answered when the account was set up, I can't get past the edit screen for changing anything about my account so I can associate the laptop with the account.  I guess I'll have to set up another account.  As far as I understood, Apple OS X was associated with the machine serial number - which I can't get to as it's only available after an OS is installed (there's no serial number on the outside of the machine to the right of the legal info on the bottom).  All that's there is the model number (A1278).  I can't download or update anything from the appstore (at least as far as I can see) without the some form of OS X running.  You indicate the unit may need new firmware to run Yosemite.  If I have a download assistant showing for Yosemite, does it mean the laptop was running this version of the OS before it was formatted and sold?  If so, it was either purchased by the former owner or updated from a prior purchased version and should still be available for the unit.  Am I misunderstanding something here about how Apple manages their OS distros?  From the above you can see I'm in somewhat of a classic "Catch 22" situation here and could use some help.  If all else fails, I'll pop a Linux distro into this thing (which sort of defeats my attempt to get some knowledge of Apple systems to see how well they stack up to my MS/Windows world.  If that's the case, I've wasted a few hundred bucks and have another Linux laptop (all my Windows laptops are Intel i5 or higher and 8 to 16 GB RAM w/SSDs) and run Windows 10 Pro.  Most were second hand machines off lease and I've upgraded them to donate to students and schools in the area.  This one is more of a trial machine to see if Apple products will be part of the program.  Right now, I'm feeling I should maybe stick with the what I know best, but I've had a few kids that ask me about MacBooks and I'd like to help if I can.  Anyway, thanks for the help and advise.

  • by Leopardus,Apple recommended

    Leopardus Leopardus Jun 18, 2016 11:53 AM in response to deputy068
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    Jun 18, 2016 11:53 AM in response to deputy068

    One thing that you can do is to buy a set  of Snow Leopard disks directly from Apple and install that on the Mac. Ah and no, the OS is not tied to a Mac, but to your Apple ID. Once you have bought it, you can install it on any Mac that you own, also in your household. As the Apple ID and the devices or Macs that you own are also tied, you will be allowed to install it. Snow Leopard has a specific Serial Number which will allow that to install on a suitable Mac and it will retrieve the Serial Number.

     

    With the purchase and installation of Snow Leopard on the Mac you will be allowed to install the latest software in the App store, which will run on your Mac. That is El Capitan OS X 10.11.5 which is very stable.

     

    Of course you can stay with SL for a while while learning. There are excellent documentation available for it, which you can also download for free.

     

    Or you can prefer to change to El Capitan. In that case, I would recommend the three books by Reid Bondonis from the iBook store. They are worth every cent. In addition there are a couple of excellent online resources that would help you in your quest like www.kryted.com for example which you can use.

     

    It might be worth it to contact Contact - Official Apple Support to assist you in retrieving the serial number if you cannot access the Mac in the command line

     

    HTH

     

    Leo

  • by Lanny,Apple recommended

    Lanny Lanny Jun 18, 2016 11:47 AM in response to deputy068
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    Jun 18, 2016 11:47 AM in response to deputy068
    (there's no serial number on the outside of the machine to the right of the legal info on the bottom).

    That's because on your model, it's inside the battery case compartment.

     

    See: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT1366

     

    Screen Shot 2016-06-18 at 1.33.22 PM.jpg

     

    The A1278 is the Aluminum model as opposed to the white plastic model.

  • by deputy068,

    deputy068 deputy068 Jun 18, 2016 11:53 AM in response to Lanny
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    Jun 18, 2016 11:53 AM in response to Lanny

    THANKS!  Found it (funny place to put it, but it's there).  Now I at least know the serial number for this thing.  Didn't see this on the Apple Support site when I was looking for info on where the serial number would be listed - only saw the description of it being printed to the right of the legal info on the bottom of the case.

  • by deputy068,

    deputy068 deputy068 Jun 20, 2016 6:21 AM in response to deputy068
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    Jun 20, 2016 6:21 AM in response to deputy068

    Thanks to all for the help and advise!  I have ordered a copy of Snow Leopard from Apple and will install it as soon as it arrives.  As I indicated, I was unaware of how Apple manages it's distros for operating systems and assumed it was something like MS uses.  I was pleasantly surprised to see that the cost of Snow Leopard was $19.99 - not the $80 - $180 MS would charge for a copy of Win 10 (the only one available from MS).  If the MacBook turns out to be more useful than the various ChromeBooks I've seen and used over the past few years, I just might scrap some of the MS based laptops I have and switch to a more modern MacBook.  Again, THANKS to all for the help.  I'll let you know once I have this little thing up and running.  I'm really curious to see how it handles the somewhat small 8 GB of DDR3 and a 256 GB SSD running on an Intel C2D 2.0 GHz proc.  I know MS OS's consume lots of resources and this combo would result in slow or logy performance.

  • by Eric Root,

    Eric Root Eric Root Jun 20, 2016 7:55 AM in response to deputy068
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    Jun 20, 2016 7:55 AM in response to deputy068

    Use the combo update to save time in Software Update.

     

    10.6.8 Combo Updater

  • by deputy068,

    deputy068 deputy068 Jun 22, 2016 3:40 PM in response to Eric Root
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    Jun 22, 2016 3:40 PM in response to Eric Root

    Just started the update process without using this tip - man, am I sorry!  It's been running for the better part of 2 hours, with no indication it's doing anything.  It rebooted and all I have on the screen is a deep space picture with a colorful pink nebula in the middle.  Wish I knew if it was doing anything....  I'm on a fast  internet connection (30 MB per second) and this is as bad as dial-up!