Can't access Mac files while running in Windows.

Bootcamp applied, running El Capitan and Windows 10 on MacBook Pro 9,2. Fine. All this is OK. But .....

I want to access my Notes files from the Mac side. I can get to the Notes.app in the Applications folder while running in Windows. I understand I can read Mac files while in Windows.

I can't get to the actual Notes files shown in the Note.app Contents folder in the Mac partition. (Running in Windows 10.)

Can someone please help me with this?

Following Missing Manual instructions ok, so far, but can't get to the actual files to open them. ???

Thanks, Mark

MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2012), OS X El Capitan (10.11.5)

Posted on Jun 22, 2016 1:01 PM

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Jun 22, 2016 3:04 PM in response to Der Jesse

Hello!

Your Mac can Read-Only files on Windows NTFS formatted drives. Windows can Read-Only Mac OS formatted partitions, namely, Mac OS Extended (Journaled). Your best option, as to not loose data or corrupt your files, is to save your documents, notes, pdf's, etc. to a Master Boot Record MS-DOS formatted Thumb Drive or external USB HD. That way Mac and Windows Apps such as Pages/Word or Preview/Adobe Reader can look at and edit your saved notes and docs.


Cheers!!

Jun 22, 2016 3:04 PM in response to BobTheFisherman

Some elaboration, please. We are told we can READ Mac files while running in Windows. Missing Manual and an Apple support guy confirm this. The suggestion from Apple Support is that bec it's an Mac OS system program, Windows perhaps can't open it. Something's not right here.

We are supposed to be able to access Mac files from Windows; is this correct or not??


Thanks, Mark

Jun 22, 2016 3:23 PM in response to jndupuis1

I don't understand.

We are told we can read Mac files from the Mac drive partition while running in Windows. So, where is the problem, here? I did this, got to the Notes.app, but couldn't come up with the actual Notes files to open or export. This from Missing Manuals and the Apple Support guy. I had the idea that I needed to do something else so that the files could be read by Mac Notes on the Mac partition.


Thanks, Mark

Jun 22, 2016 4:02 PM in response to Der Jesse

You're welcome.

I run Windows 10 Pro with Boot Camp. I have MS Office 2011 for Mac. and Microsoft Office 2010 installed in Windows 10 Pro. I have Adobe installed in Windows 10 and have used Preview in Mac. File sharing between these programs is a non-issue for me as I save all documents created on an MS-DOS (FAT32) partition on an External USB HD. HP printing Apps are available for my wireless printer/scanner from the App Store as well as the Microsoft Store. I run a Mac Mini and a MacBook Pro both 2012 with El Capitan and Windows 10 Pro. My apology if I did not try to completely answer your question.


Cheers!!

Jun 22, 2016 4:20 PM in response to jndupuis1

Your method certainly will work. I also save/write documents etc. to an external drive from both Windows and OSX but my external drive is formatted ExFat. Both Windows and OSX can read/write to ExFat formatted drives. But this is not what the OP is asking about. The OP wants to work with files located on his Mac extended journaled drive from within Windows.

Jun 22, 2016 4:34 PM in response to jndupuis1

Thank you much! I knew about the flash drive possibility, but not how that works. I guess David Pogue can be wrong like anybody else. He makes no qualifications as to which files can be read. I was skeptical from the beginning. How could I read any files without running the program to open them?

I assumed that just READING files could be done while in the Mac formatted partition. I assumed there was a way to just look at the files to read them, without needed the programs to open them. You are saying that is not possible. I get that. I never intended to run the Notes.app in Windows.


Pogue: p. 450ff. of Missing Manual El Capitan, " .... (in Windows) go to your Mac's hard drive partition. Open it up. You can see and open these files.

But if you want to edit them, you have to copy them to your Windows world first---onto the desktop, ... or into a folder. ( The Mac partition is "read-only" in this way, Apple says for security.... ) " Did this, got to the Notes.app. No mention of opening a program. I only wanted to read my Notes files without having to reboot into Mac. So,.. what is he talking about? I got the idea I was missing something in order to just read files. I still have that idea. The Apple Support guy agreed but suggested I needed Windows Support help with a Mac system program. I'm a retired academic, and I like to get things resolved. I'll go to Missing Manual, and to Windows. LOL.


I thank all of you for your help! It's frustrating sometimes, but it's fun, and it's learning. Mark

Jun 25, 2016 6:31 PM in response to Der Jesse

Reading files and opening files do have some differences. For example, if you have a Word document in OSx Documents folder, and in Windows/Bootcamp, want to open the file, Microsoft Word also tries and creates temporary file in the location of the original document (unless otherwise specified where temp files go). Such an operation will always fail. The reverse process will also fail, because of the same reason.


The application trying to read a file must strictly only read a file and not try to open for write or create temporary work files. Most Microsoft programs do this temporary file creation, causing problems.


The external FAT storage method allows both OSes to create/modify files and creation of work files, if necessary. Using third-party software for cross read/write is possible, but most such software has been buggy in my experience, and can cause corruption, including catastrophic data loss.

Jun 25, 2016 6:23 PM in response to Loner T

Hi Loner T,

Thanks much for wrapping this thing up! I think now I know what David Pogue intended. I think he was talking about working from the USB flash used in the Boot Camp Assistant procedure, but his instructions are incomplete, I think. My MBPro used it, but apparently not in the way he meant for this reading operation. I think. I understand more now from your elaboration. OK, next step, if you will......


Bob mentions his drive is formatted ExFat to do this. I have always used MS DOS Fat32. Questions: How should I format the USB 32GB flash drive I have in order to read files from the Mac side?? Is there any difference?

Also, which files may I read and which not?? I am really only interested, right now, in the files from the NOTES.App in the Mac.


Any instruction on this I will greatly appreciate..... Thanks to all of you...... Mark

Jun 25, 2016 6:53 PM in response to Der Jesse

exFAT allows individual files to be larger than 4GB, which FAT32 does not support. exFAT is a bit better than FAT32. The USB Flash drive can be formatted in OSX Disk Utility as exFAT or FAT32. If you use a USB flash drive with exFAT, you should be able to read/write from both OSX and Windows. Keep good backup of your files which reside on the FAT32/exFAT partitions to avoid data loss. Recovery of either file system can be challenging.

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