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Jul 5, 2016 11:35 AM in response to Csound1by BazB,Thats what I thought too, however I have searched in finder for (vpn) and there are no results, i have also looked through the entire applications list in finder and there are no VPN's there too. I have no details of the VPN I dont even know what the name of it might be.
What should I Do?
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Jul 5, 2016 11:37 AM in response to BazBby Csound1,Look for it, it will be in Activity Monitor, you will have to remember the names of the ones you had installed.
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Jul 5, 2016 11:38 AM in response to BazBby KiltedTim,Perhaps you should consider backing up all your data, wiping your machine, and re-installing OS X. In the future, you really need to keep better track of what you have installed and what it does. If you're not using a VPN to access a private corporate network, there are very few legal reasons to be using one. I'm guessing the reason you had them installed was to bypass regional restrictions on accessing protected content.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:17 PM in response to BazBby Linc Davis,1. This procedure is a diagnostic test. It changes nothing, for better or worse, and therefore will not, in itself, solve the problem. But with the aid of the test results, the solution may take a few minutes, instead of hours or days.
The test works on OS X 10.8 ("Mountain Lion") and later. I don't recommend running it on older versions of OS X. It will do no harm, but it won't do much good either.
Don't be put off by the complexity of these instructions. The procedure is easy to do right, but it's also easy to do wrong, so I've made the instructions very detailed. You do harder tasks with the computer all the time.
2. If you don't already have a current backup, please back up all data before doing anything else. The backup is necessary on general principle, not because of anything in the test procedure. Backup is always a must, and when you're having any kind of trouble with the computer, you may be at higher than usual risk of losing data, whether you follow these instructions or not.
There are ways to back up a computer that isn't fully functional. Ask if you need guidance.
3. Below are instructions to run a UNIX shell script, a type of program. As I wrote above, it changes nothing. It doesn't send or receive any data on the network. All it does is to generate a human-readable report on the state of the computer. That report goes nowhere unless you choose to share it. If you prefer, you can act on it yourself without disclosing the contents to me or anyone else.
You should be wondering whether you can believe me, and whether it's safe to run a program at the behest of a stranger. In general, no, it's not safe and I don't encourage it.
In this case, however, there are ways for you to decide whether the program is safe without having to trust me. First, you can read it. Unlike an application that you download and click to run, it's transparent, so anyone who understands the code can verify what it does.
You may not be able to understand the script yourself. But variations of it have been posted on this website many times over a period of years. Any one of the millions of registered users could have read the script and raised the alarm if it was harmful. Then I would not be here now and you would not be reading this message. See, for example, this discussion.
Nevertheless, if you can't satisfy yourself that these instructions are safe, don't follow them. Ask for other options.
4. Here's a general summary of what you need to do, if you choose to proceed:
☞ Copy the text of a particular web page (not this one) to the Clipboard.
☞ Paste into the window of another application.
☞ Wait for the test to run. It usually takes a few minutes.
☞ Paste the results, which will have been copied automatically, back into a reply on this page.
These are not specific instructions; just an overview. The details are in parts 7 and 8 of this comment. The sequence is: copy, paste, wait, paste again. You don't need to copy a second time.
5. Try to test under conditions that reproduce the problem, as far as possible. For example, if the computer is intermittently slow, run the test during a slowdown.
You may have started up in safe mode. If the system is now in safe mode and works well enough in normal mode to run the test, restart as usual before running it. If you can only test in safe mode, do that.
6. If you have more than one user, and only one user is affected by the problem,, and the affected user is not an administrator, then please run the test twice: once while logged in as the affected user, and once as an administrator. The results may be different. The user that is created automatically on a new computer when you start it for the first time is an administrator. If you can't log in as an administrator, test as the affected user. Most personal Macs have only one user, and in that case this section doesn’t apply. Don't log in as root.
7. Load this linked web page (on the website "GitHub") in Safari. Press the key combination command-A to select all the text, then copy it to the Clipboard by pressing command-C.
8. Launch the built-in Terminal application in any one of the following ways:
☞ Enter the first few letters of its name ("Terminal") into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)
☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.
☞ Open LaunchPad and start typing the name.
Click anywhere in the Terminal window to activate it. Paste from the Clipboard into the window by pressing command-V, then press return. The text you pasted should vanish immediately.
9. If you're logged in as an administrator, you'll be prompted for your login password. Nothing will be displayed when you type it. You will not see the usual dots in place of typed characters. Make sure caps lock is off. Type carefully and then press return. You may get a one-time warning to be careful. If you make three failed attempts to enter the password, the test will run anyway, but it will produce less information. If you don't know the password, or if you prefer not to enter it, just press return three times at the password prompt. Again, the script will still run.
If the test is taking much longer than usual to run because the computer is very slow, you might be prompted for your password a second time. The authorization that you grant by entering it expires automatically after five minutes.
If you're not logged in as an administrator, you won't be prompted for a password. The test will still run. It just won't do anything that requires administrator privileges.
10. The test may take a few minutes to run, depending on how many files you have and the speed of the computer. A computer that's abnormally slow may take longer to run the test. While it's running, a series of lines will appear in the Terminal window like this:
Test startedPart 1 of 4 done at: … sec
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Part 4 of 4 done at: … secThe test results are on the Clipboard.Please close this window.The intervals between parts won't be exactly equal, but they give a rough indication of progress.
Wait for the final message "Please close this window" to appear—again, usually within a few minutes. If you don't see that message within about 30 minutes, the test probably won't complete in a reasonable time. In that case, press the key combination control-C or command-period to stop it. Then go to the next step. You'll have incomplete results, but still something.
In order to get results, the test must either be allowed to complete or else manually stopped as above. If you close the Terminal window while the test is still running, the partial results won't be saved.
11. When the test is complete, or if you stopped it manually, quit Terminal. The results will have been saved to the Clipboard automatically. They are not shown in the Terminal window. Please don't copy anything from there. All you have to do is start a reply to this comment and then paste by pressing command-V again.
At the top of the results, there will be a line that begins with the words "Start time." If you don't see that, but instead see a mass of gibberish, you didn't wait for the "close this window" message. Please wait for it and try again.
If any private information, such as your name or email address, appears in the results, anonymize it before posting. Usually that won't be necessary.
12. When you post the results, you might see an error message on the web page: "You have included content in your post that is not permitted," or "The message contains invalid characters." That's a bug in the software that runs this website. Please post the test results on Pastebin, then post a link here to the page you created.
If you have an account on Pastebin, please don't select Private from the Paste Exposure menu on the page, because then no one but you will be able to see it.
13. When you're done with the test, it's gone. There is nothing to uninstall or clean up.
14. This is a public forum, and others may give you advice based on the results of the test. They speak for themselves, not for me. The test itself is harmless, but whatever else you do may not be. For others who choose to run it, I don't recommend that you post the test results on this website unless I asked you to.
15. The linked UNIX shell script bears a notice of copyright. Readers of ASC may copy it for their own personal use. Neither the whole nor any part may be redistributed.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:29 PM in response to Linc Davisby BazB,Hey LincDavis,
Firstly thank you so much for taking the time to reply with such a detailed response.
I am not that great with all the techy parts of using the computer and completely lost by your instructions. haha
I have however just by using some ip websites managed to find out the provider of the IP I *apparently* have. Does that help me in anyway?
Regards & Thanks,
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Jul 5, 2016 12:41 PM in response to BazBby Linc Davis,Does that help me in anyway?
I don't know whether it helps you. The instructions in my comment above are no harder to follow than tasks you do with the computer every day. It's just a matter of copying some text from one window to another. But if you prefer not to follow those instructions, see below.
Please back up all data to at least two different storage devices, if you haven't already done so. One backup is not enough to be safe. The backups can be made with Time Machine or with Disk Utility. Preferably both.
Erase and install OS X. This operation will destroy all data on the startup volume, so you had be better be sure of the backups. If you upgraded from an older version of OS X, you'll need the Apple ID and password that you used, so make a note of those before you begin.
When you restart, you'll be prompted to go through the initial setup process. That’s when you transfer the data from a backup.
Select only users and Computer & Network Settings in the Setup Assistant dialog—not Applications or Other files and folders. Don't transfer the Guest account, if it was enabled.
If the problem is resolved after the clean installation, reinstall third-party software selectively. I can only suggest general guidelines. Self-contained applications that install into the Applications folder by drag-and-drop or download from the App Store are usually safe. Anything that comes packaged as an installer or that prompts for an administrator password is suspect, and you must test thoroughly after reinstalling each such item to make sure you haven't restored the problem. I strongly recommend that you never reinstall "security" products, "utilities," or any software that changes the user interface or the behavior of built-in applications such as Safari. If you do that, the problem is likely to recur.
Before installing any software, ask yourself the question: "Am I sure I know how to uninstall this without having to wipe the volume again?" If the answer is "no," stop.
Never install any third-party software unless you know how to uninstall it.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:49 PM in response to Linc Davisby BazB,Wow.
Is all this really necessary in order to just remove a VPN?
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Jul 5, 2016 12:56 PM in response to BazBby Linc Davis,If you don't know what it is and are not willing to take any steps to find out, yes.
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Jul 5, 2016 12:57 PM in response to BazBby BazB,How comes the VPN doesn't show up in System Preferences > Networks ??
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Jul 5, 2016 12:59 PM in response to Linc Davisby BazB,I know what a VPN is? Im just extremely confused as to how when I go to finder and search [VPN] there are no results and when I go to System Preferences > Networks there is also no VPN, but when I search on google (What is my IP?) it comes up with an IP completely different to all other devices in my house.... thats all I want to know and i hoped there is a simple fix.
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Jul 5, 2016 1:01 PM in response to BazBby Csound1,You probably removed part of it when you went on your delete and forget jaunt
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Jul 5, 2016 1:02 PM in response to BazBby BazB,Ive spoken with the provider and apparently the IP is connected to the Hotspot Shield VPN? will that make it any easier for me to delete?
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Jul 5, 2016 1:05 PM in response to BazBby Csound1,Why are all your replies to yourself, it makes following this thread difficult, so I am gone.