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Jul 15, 2016 9:07 AM in response to John Franzby Jimzgoldfinch,★HelpfulHi,
You can't upload protected iTunes files to Amazon. You can only remove DRM by subscribing to iTunes Match although you may find that some tracks won't be upgrade. An alternative is to burn the tracks to audio CDs but in view of the number of tracks involved, this would be impractible.
Jim
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Jul 15, 2016 9:04 AM in response to John Franzby Niel,★HelpfulIf you got them as individual song purchases, click here and follow the instructions.
If they’re Apple Music tracks, no.
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Jul 15, 2016 9:06 AM in response to Jimzgoldfinchby John Franz,I don't think you can burn them to cd to remove the DRM. And like you say that would be too much. And iTunes won't let me convert them. And since I just paid to have cloud storage with Amazon to play music on my tap and echo I don't want to pay apple too.
Seems absurd. They now admit basically that DRM was a mistake. They should just them be converted to real songs.
I guess the songs will only be played on the iPod which Apple seems to have abandoned. And I'll never buy another song from iTunes....
Thanks.
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Jul 15, 2016 9:26 AM in response to John Franzby Limnos,If the song you purchased had DRM you can burn it, not Apple Music DRM.
Realize the whole DRM idea was likely the idea of the big media companies, not Apple. They are the ones who fret about piracy.
You paid for the DRM version. The non-DRM version was available for an upgrade fee until Apple probably figured enought time had passed for people to pay for the upgrade and discontinued the iTunes Plus policy. Now you can do it by subscribing to Match for a year if you have enough tracks with DRM to consider it worth it.
We are other users like you and don't care if you buy music from Apple or not.
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Jul 15, 2016 10:34 AM in response to Limnosby John Franz,"If the song you purchased had DRM you can burn it, not Apple Music DRM." Not sure what you mean. All the songs I'm trying to covert were purchased from iTunes.
I believe the restriction on burning was that you could only burn an album to CD 3 times as an album but I don't think that the resulting song file was unprotected. But then you could mix up the order and burn more. But I don't really remember. Most people are not burning cd's much anymore, at least not me. I just want to be able to play the tracks on my Amazon Echo and Tap.
If apple at some point offered non-protected DRM replacements I must have missed it and until now I never thought much or was bothered by the restrictions. But if they are willing to get rid of the DRM why do we have to pay to do it by joining Apple Match? Are they reimbursing the recording companies with the money they get? I think at this point everyone agrees that DRM was a mistake. Seems like they should just offer replacements for free or a simple conversion solution. Just wondering and, no, I don't expect you to know the answers...
Are you saying that I could subscribe to Apple Match and get rid of the DRM and then quit Apple Match and still have the songs DRM free? How long would I have to be a member? Would the DRM free songs stay that way? Questions I guess I'd want to know the answer to if I were to take that route.
I do see that there are some third party solutions, programs that remove the DRM and convert to other formats. Years ago my computer hard drive went Apple told me there was no way to get the songs on my iPod onto the new hard drive. But of course Senuti worked perfectly. I suspect that is the case here too.
I am aware of who the people that use these boards are but was not aware that you spoke for all of us. I'm also pretty confident that these boards are monitored by apple. If you don't care why mention it? But thanks, I guess...
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Jul 15, 2016 11:00 AM in response to John Franzby Jimzgoldfinch,Hi,
All itunes purchases prior to 2009 had DRM. iTunes store started to sell 256 Kbps AAC files with no DRM in 2009 and offered upgrades of existing 128 Kbps protected to 256 unprotected in 2009 - they made an additional charge per track - 20p in UK. To upgrade 2,000 tracks would be expensive!
iTunes Match was introduced in 2011 for annual fee (£21.99 in UK). This enabled you to upgrade most of your music which to me was a no brainer. You could also upgrade you low bit rate files as well provided they were matched.
If you burn tracks to cd, you can reimport them without DRM. As mention in my previous post, you could subscribe to iTunes Match and upgrade most of your music. You will retain upgraded tracks that you have downloaded after you unsubscribe. If you have 2000 tracks, this is the only way you can upgrade your tracks.
Jim
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Jul 17, 2016 5:43 AM in response to John Franzby Limnos,Jimzgoldfinch has answered a lot of your questions.
I don't know about them admitting DRM was a "mistake". It may not have worked, certainly from a marketing perspective, but that doesn't mean that to those that implemented it think it was a "mistake". I tried putting metal sheeting around a tree to stop squirrels from climbing up the tree. It didn't work but I don't think I made a mistake in trying to stop the squirrels. I need to come up with a better method. Maybe the increase in music prices reflects some fudge factor compensation the media companies think reflects piracy loss due to not having DRM?
We don't know who gets the money. You think it through from a marketing perspective and you will probably get as close an answer as we can. You paid for the 128k DRM copy. What you want a 256k non-DRM copy which is a different item in two ways from that you originally purchased so why don't you expect to pay more?
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Jul 17, 2016 7:04 AM in response to John Franzby ed2345,Are you saying that I could subscribe to Apple Match and get rid of the DRM and then quit Apple Match and still have the songs DRM free? How long would I have to be a member? Would the DRM free songs stay that way? Questions I guess I'd want to know the answer to if I were to take that route.
John,
The way it works is that you delete your DRM-infected version from your library, and download the matched AAC/256 non-DRM version. Once the non-DRM version is on your computer (and your backup), you no longer need Match. the procedure is in this document:
About iTunes Plus - Apple Support
Subscriptions to iTunes Match are annual.