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Q: Transitions replicates over my background generator

Hi,

 

I'm making a project where I have several pictures coming in to frame using the clothesline transition. I added a background generator behind the picture but what happens is that the transition is added to the generator also. How do I fix this, how can I make the background "solid" without the transition replicating itself onto the generator?

 

Regards, Mikael

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X Yosemite (10.10.1)

Posted on Jul 13, 2016 5:12 AM

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  • by BenB,

    BenB BenB Jul 13, 2016 6:03 AM in response to mikenite
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    Jul 13, 2016 6:03 AM in response to mikenite

    Most transitions will effect everything below them.  But working with the transition as you describe, I'm not seeing any issues with the background color.  I'm using the Custom from the Solid category in the Generators. 

     

    Screen Shot 2016-07-13 at 8.02.04 AM.png

  • by mikenite,Helpful

    mikenite mikenite Jul 13, 2016 6:41 AM in response to BenB
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    Jul 13, 2016 6:41 AM in response to BenB

    Yes, with a color everything is ok, but I'm using the "blobs" generator.

  • by Luis Sequeira1,Helpful

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Jul 13, 2016 6:41 AM in response to mikenite
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    Jul 13, 2016 6:41 AM in response to mikenite

    Some transitions affect the clips below, some don't.

    The generally recommended solution to this is to enclose the clips above and the transition in a compound clip.

  • by mikenite,

    mikenite mikenite Jul 13, 2016 6:41 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Jul 13, 2016 6:41 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    Yes, I noticed, this is kind of a big problem, if you use Keynote you can add something over a background and add effects and it works fine, rather strange that it can't be done i FCP X.

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Jul 13, 2016 7:25 AM in response to mikenite
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    Jul 13, 2016 7:25 AM in response to mikenite

    mikenite wrote:

     

    Yes, I noticed, this is kind of a big problem, if you use Keynote you can add something over a background and add effects and it works fine, rather strange that it can't be done i FCP X.

    It can, like I wrote before.

     

    I went and tried this clothesline transition, which I had never used it before.

    In my mac, I don't see it affecting the background clip at all.

    Could you post a screenshot of your timeline at the place you are applying this transition?

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jul 13, 2016 7:31 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Jul 13, 2016 7:31 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    It seems to effect the background layer if it's an animated generator.

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jul 13, 2016 7:41 AM in response to mikenite
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    Jul 13, 2016 7:41 AM in response to mikenite

    You could probably fix this by opening a copy in Motion. I can fix it so that it works as an outgoing transition the way you would like, but I don't know enough to fix it as an incoming transition. I'm sure someone with even a little more proficiency than I could do it.

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Jul 13, 2016 7:48 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jul 13, 2016 7:48 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Tom Wolsky wrote:

     

    It seems to effect the background layer if it's an animated generator.

    I tried it over the "clouds" and the "blobs" generators, and I don't have it affecting them.

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jul 13, 2016 8:10 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jul 13, 2016 8:10 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    During the transition this is what you see

     

    ScreenSnapz001.png

    a copy of clouds is swinging onto the screen with the incoming image. I guess if the incoming image is the same size as the underlying layer it won't be noticeable.

  • by mikenite,

    mikenite mikenite Jul 13, 2016 8:16 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jul 13, 2016 8:16 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Yes, that seems to be the problem, the picture that swings in is smaller in scale (still picture.) I've removed that effect now since it didn't look good, I tried to use lens flare also and what happens is the generator disappear completly during the transition and then comes back… so thats my next problem...

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Jul 13, 2016 8:42 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jul 13, 2016 8:42 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    That's my point. I DON'T see this smaller copy of the clouds swinging. That is why I was asking the OP to show us his timeline.

     

    Screen Shot 2016-07-13 at 16.41.09.png

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Jul 13, 2016 8:49 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Jul 13, 2016 8:49 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    Ok, now I see it. In my example above, the generator is connected below the primary. If instead the generator in the primary and the transition is in a storyline above, then I see what you see.

    I confirm that the compound clip approach does solve it. It may be moot now, but still.

  • by Tom Wolsky,

    Tom Wolsky Tom Wolsky Jul 13, 2016 8:53 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Jul 13, 2016 8:53 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    It actually swings out the lower layer and another appears underneath. Can't see how you're getting it without that.

     

    Figured out how to fix it in Motion, but it needs two different transitions, one for the incoming transition and one for the outgoing. For the incoming transition, to bring the still onto the screen, switch off the green layer in Motion. For the outgoing transition, switch off the red layer. Two separate transitions.

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Jul 13, 2016 8:56 AM in response to Tom Wolsky
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    Jul 13, 2016 8:56 AM in response to Tom Wolsky

    Tom Wolsky wrote:

     

    You could probably fix this by opening a copy in Motion. I can fix it so that it works as an outgoing transition the way you would like, but I don't know enough to fix it as an incoming transition. I'm sure someone with even a little more proficiency than I could do it.

    There may be more fixing to do in absolutely right in terms of timing, but a very quick way in Motion to turn this into an incoming only transition is to delete (or merely disable) "Transition A" from there.

    (Likewise delete or disable "Transition B" for an outgoing transition).

     

    I can confirm that making this change also fixes the original issue.

     

    Edit: of course, you had already figured that out . Beat me by one minute!

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