How to move Photos Out of Camera Roll?

If I put the general controversy aside, I have installed this Utiful app and for me it does the job. With it I can move photos out of the Camera Roll and organize them into folders. So the photos get really moved out of the Camera Roll, I got my Camera Roll quite clean in the meantime. I can also sort the photos as I like, which was also important to me. There's no tagging feature in the app however but I contacted the developer and was ensured that it's on their backlog. So far so good, I now finally have a solution to the iPhone photo organization problem raised here that applies to me in the same severity as for Amsena.

LeoLoewe wrote:

If I put the general controversy aside, I have installed this Utiful app and for me it does the job. With it I can move photos out of the Camera Roll and organize them into folders. So the photos get really moved out of the Camera Roll,

So how do you then get these stored on your computer so when your phone needs to be restored, you still have the photos?

I can easily export folders out of Utiful to my computer, over AirDrop or over iTunes. I hope they'll add a Dropbox sync though, would make things easier for me. Does this answer your question? Or do you mean what happens when you upgrade your phone? This I know because I recently upgraded to iPhone 7. The Utiful app and all photos (& videos) are obviously part of the iTunes backup because when I restored the iTunes backup of the old phone onto the iPhone 7, Utiful looked just the same as on the old phone and all photos were in the respective folders.

LeoLoewe wrote:

I can easily export folders out of Utiful to my computer, over AirDrop or over iTunes.

Why not simply sync the photos from your iPhone to your computer and have them deleted from the camera roll automatically? All in 1 step.

Then they sync back to the iPhone using iTunes.

Then you wont need a 3rd party utility and have to do several more unneeded steps.

chalkman312 wrote:

unless something changes I can see the iPhone slowly to lose market share.

Sorry to say that it is gaining market share, not losing it. iPhone sales in the most recent quarter were the best they have ever been. https://www.statista.com/statistics/263401/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-3rd-q uarter-2007/

There are a number of apps that will archive your photos in cloud storage and allow you to delete them from the phone, yet still preserve them to view when you want to. I use two: upthere.com, and Google Photos. But there are plenty of others: Shutterfly, box.com, dropbox.com, etc.

Upthere will store all of your data; photos, videos, music, documents and allow you to organize and share them as desired.

Google photos will actually organize them for you, based on when and where they were taken; it will also group using facial recognition, create panoramas when you take adjacent images, show you albums of what you shot on the current date in the past, and many other neat organizing features.

Logixor wrote:

Imagine that I have only 2 albums, each with 5,000 photos, how in the name of God will I know which 5,000 photos I have assigned to which album... obviously I have to review all 5,000 photos in an album to know which is and which isn't !!! And even like this I would't be able to remember 5,000 photos just on the fly. It is absolutely counterintuitive to do this! Those devices are supposed to give us the liberty to do this, not take it from us!

I can't imagine keeping 10,000 pictures on my phone or thinking it made sense to that that as my prime repository for my photos. It's a disaster waiting to happen. Personally, I move almost none of my photos into albums. I use the iPhone's search to get pretty close to finding what I need. I don't understand way, if albums are the way you chose to organize photos, you'd use ones so huge that you couldn't look through them quickly. But, mostly, I don't really care how you chose to organize your photos. It's a highly personal decision. I can't change your mind and none of us here can change the way the iPhone works. Submit your feedback to Apple. Use a different app. Buy a different kind of phone.

It's not "theyPhone" it's "iPhone"

Apple will continue to do what they have always done, give you the device they think you should have.

Studmei wrote:

the Samsung /android photo library lets you move photos around freely. it makes no sense for iOS to be so limiting.

It makes no sense that iOS should work exactly like Android. If it did, what would be the point?

Submit your feedback to Apple. The link has already been provided.

ProbablySwitchingToAndroid wrote:

I expect, at the very least, a comparable amount of flexibility and customization in such an increasingly vital area for businesses.

iPhones and Androids work differently in many ways. You should buy the tool that best meets your needs. No one in this thread has any vested interest in what you chose.

Best of luck.

That's again an assumption, what if it was a mistake?

Then it was a mistake.

But these forums are here for a purpose. Why would Apple delete posts that fit in with the purpose of these forums?

LorLuga wrote:

I have 20,000 photos on my iPad and I need to get them into folders on my iPad and out of camera roll.

What are you gonna do when your iPad crashes and you need to restore it?