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Jul 13, 2016 1:35 PM in response to Amsenaby IdrisSeabright,Amsena wrote:
As I said repeatedly, if you imagine your Camera Roll as a mail Inbox, anyone, designer or not, would think that its ridiculous to no be able to move message out of the inbox folder and organized them in different folders.
I certainly do not think of my Camera Roll as an inbox. And, even if someone did, it doesn't follow that someone would agree with you. I know lots of people who are not fans of the whole "zero inbox" concept.
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Jul 13, 2016 1:59 PM in response to Amsenaby Lawrence Finch,Amsena wrote:
As I said repeatedly, if you imagine your Camera Roll as a mail Inbox, anyone, designer or not, would think that its ridiculous to no be able to move message out of the inbox folder and organized them in different folders.
You can imagine anything you want, but the Camera Roll is not analogous to a mail Inbox. Since the analogy is flawed, any conclusions you draw from it are meaningless.
The Camera Roll is the ONLY content on an iPhone that is accessible from a computer. That's a security imperative. If you connect the phone to your computer the Camera Roll (and nothing else) will appear in Windows Explorer or Mac Finder. That's implemented that way so you can copy your content out of the Camera Roll to your computer, then organize it any way you want. And then put the organized content back onto the phone if you want to.
The latest iOS doesn't even have a camera roll. It has a global image store, and it has albums. You can add albums. You can move images between albums. You can duplicate images in multiple albums. What had been the camera roll is just storage for all of the photos on your phone (except albums synced from your computer). When a photo appears in an album (and it can appear in more than one) all the album contains is a pointer to the photo in the global photo store. The photos are not duplicated.
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Jul 13, 2016 2:13 PM in response to Lawrence Finchby Amsena,Why isn't it analogous? Its totally the same. Files to organize. Mail to organize. Pictures to organize.
I am aware that photos are not duplicated.
If everything is thought so that you organize it in your PC, why are there albums in the first place?
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Jul 13, 2016 2:31 PM in response to Amsenaby IdrisSeabright,Amsena wrote:
Why isn't it analogous? Its totally the same. Files to organize. Mail to organize. Pictures to organize.
Again, even if the analogy were apt (and I don't think it is), you are assuming that "in box" means the same thing to everyone, that everyone treats it as "mail to organize". Seriously, some people leave it in their in box forever. Gmail was set up on that premise, in fact. You labeled email so that you could view it in different ways but it was all in one box. I still, for the most part, use Gmail that way. My mail is in All Mail. I tag it. Or, I search for it. I don't waste time moving it about. Not a strategy with which everyone would be happy. But, the point is, there is more than one way to look at things, including handling photos.
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Jul 13, 2016 2:43 PM in response to IdrisSeabrightby Amsena,You cannot simply say "I don't think so". You have to give reasons, otherwise its not valid.
If Apple could stop erasing my posts this would be a nice discussion.
I am aware some people just leave it as it is. In fact, that's what I said in the post that got deleted for who knows which reason (not appealing to Apple). The thing I said is that at least, in mail services, both alternatives coexist. The option to leave it all disorganized and not sort it out in folder, and the option to do so.
Accept it or not, your strategy might work for what you need, but its not organized. Thing is, you cant tag photos, nor put name to them, nor key word search them. If it was, then the Camera Roll would be ok. But its not possible to do so with images.
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Jul 13, 2016 3:36 PM in response to Amsenaby Chris CA,Amsena wrote:
You cannot simply say "I don't think so". You have to give reasons, otherwise its not valid.
I don’t think so. I don’t need to give a reason. It is still valid.
If Apple could stop erasing my posts this would be a nice discussion.
Actually, just the opposite.
Your posts get deleted because they are against the ToS.
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Jul 13, 2016 3:56 PM in response to Chris CAby Amsena,I don’t think so. I don’t need to give a reason. It is still valid.
Discussions between grownups demand reasons instead of baseless opinions. Otherwise exchange of opinions becomes senseless and simplified to "because I say so".
Actually, just the opposite.
Your posts get deleted because they are against the ToS.
You are just assuming. There could be other reasons.
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Jul 13, 2016 4:11 PM in response to Amsenaby Chris CA,Amsena wrote:
Discussions between me & someone else demand reasons
Fixed that for you.
You are just assuming. There could be other reasons.
Not at all.
Posts do not get deleted unless they are against the ToS.
If they are inline with the ToS, they do not get deleted.
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Jul 13, 2016 4:17 PM in response to Chris CAby Amsena,Not at all.
Posts do not get deleted unless they are against the ToS.
If they are inline with the ToS, they do not get deleted.
That's again an assumption, what if it was a mistake? What if the guy checking the posts is in a bad mood? Even more, the employee in charge of doing so clearly is not checking every point of the ToS, but based on his subjective opinion of the ToS he is deleting the posts. Moreover, what if Apple employees have order to delete certain posts, and these are not outlined in the ToS?
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Jul 13, 2016 4:21 PM in response to Amsenaby elcpu,I reported your post to the moderators earlier today because it violated the Terms of Use. Your post was offensive to another user who was just trying to help you. The moderators agreed and your post went poof just like the thread you started on this same topic yesterday which is now gone. Read the ToU again. Also note that if you continue to do this the moderators may revoke your posting privileges. Apple Support Communities Use Agreement
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Jul 13, 2016 4:23 PM in response to Amsenaby Chris CA,That's again an assumption, what if it was a mistake?
Then it was a mistake.
But these forums are here for a purpose. Why would Apple delete posts that fit in with the purpose of these forums?
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Jul 13, 2016 4:28 PM in response to Chris CAby Amsena,Yea, well, the feedback service is also there for a purpose but I don't see it working either.
Why would Apple delete posts that fit in with the purpose of these forums?
I myself have wondered the reasons of Apple actions for years now....
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Jul 13, 2016 4:29 PM in response to elcpuby Amsena,Your post was offensive to another user who was just trying to help you
It was not offensive. And he was not trying to help me. I cannot continue something I never started.
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Jul 13, 2016 4:46 PM in response to Amsenaby Chris CA,Amsena wrote:
Yea, well, the feedback service is also there for a purpose but I don't see it working either.
How do you know it’s not working?
It sends your suggestions to Apple. It does not mean you will receive a response (this is noted when you send feedback) or you suggestion will get implemented.
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Jul 13, 2016 5:45 PM in response to Chris CAby Amsena,I am aware of that. But if thousands of users request a feature for, lets say, 3 years? Something is clearly wrong with the feedback service or the way Apple manages the feedback its users provide.