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help in choosing a 2015 imac

Hi all,

I've looking to get a new or slightly used 27" imac and trying to make a good price per value choice.

My primary uses are Photoshop, video editing and AE. NOT a gamer.

I need this machine to last at least 5-6 years to justify the expense.


My options :


Basic model (MK462LL):

3.2 GHz - 1TB 7200 rpm drive - M380 GPU (brand new + 2 year warranty)


Next level (MK472LL)- price increase of $220:

3.2 GHz - 1TB fusion drive - M390 GPU (brand new + 2 year warranty)


Highest level (MK482LL)- another $445 (that's $665 more than the basic model):

3.3 GHz - 2 TB fusion drive - M395 GPU (brand new + 2 year warranty)


Last option: a lightly used, 9 month old, MK482LL (same specs as above) with over 2 years left of apple care. This one costs $255 more than the inferior (first) option.

It's priced kind of high, considering a brand new one just like it costs only $300 more.


How noticeable are the GPU differences? (Benchmarks don't mean a thing to me. i'm talking real life usage).


The price difference between the 2 first levels isn't huge, but is it justifiable?

I don't care how long it takes to boot, but once your apps are up and running, does the 24GB SSD make a difference? (There will be no room in it for video and render file)

Is it worth getting the expensive option that has the 2TB fusion drive (I don't need the space) just because of its 128 GB SSD? Is it NECESSARY to have the bigger drive if I want to upgrade the RAM to 32 or 64 (eventually I will)?


Your thoughts would be appreciated!

Posted on Jul 13, 2016 2:38 PM

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Jul 13, 2016 3:52 PM in response to dndn

I went through the same thing as you are going through. Eventually, I selected option 3. May I say...... I'm just a regular old guy, no photo editing, music editing, none of that technical stuff, just everyday computer stuff. I must say, I always choose the the top tier stuff. So after careful thought and a lot of web research, option 3 was a no brainer. I doubled the ram to 16gb. It's a great machine, I received it 6 days ago and I've got no regrets. That being said, my former computer was a 2013 top of the line Dell configured with a SSD, so far I can't tell the difference, speed wise. Choose option 3, better GPU, Processer and the 2 tb fusion drive has a larger SSD. When spending that much money, don't cut corners you'll regret it in the long run. Good luck!

Jul 14, 2016 12:13 AM in response to iMac1955

Thanks for your answer. If money wasn't an object, I would surely go for the best model, but it is, and therefore I'm trying to understand how much it really matters. I'd like to hear more about the performance of the 1TB fusion drive (the type that is made of 24GB SSD + 5400 rpm HHD) vs the 1TB 7200 rpm HHD. I'm not clear about the benefits of such a small SSD other than fast startup (who cares?) What matters is how it fast works once it's up. Am I not better off with a faster HHD drive? (combined with an external SSD drive that I already own).

Jul 14, 2016 12:33 AM in response to dndn

What is AE?

Due to Apple's exclusive use of AMD GPU's, in many Mac models, AMD has really worked with Apple and made their GPUs extremely optimised for use with Final Cut Pro X only and not really an option for any other NLE system or software.

Also, you never reallly addressed my video editing question.

Light, medium or heavy use, heavy resource intense video work?

Need to address this as the wrong spec'd iMac is just going to make your video work a slow, difficult and tedious/frustrating process.

Depending on your use, you MAY need to "bite the bullet" and go with a much higher spec'd out iMac.

Anything less will simply not cut it!

Also, Apple has payment plans on new Macs, as well.

Also, check Apple's online Refurbished store for deals on higher spec'd iMacs.

Apple treats their refurbished products as new and have all of the same AppleCare warranty plans.


http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac


Inventory and pricing change daily.

Jul 14, 2016 1:41 AM in response to MichelPM

Thanks Michel,


AE is Adobe After Effects.

Regarding video editing - at the moment it's light usage, but these things tend to change, that's why I didn't answer. Not sure what you mean by "resource intense video". If you mean simultaneous tracks from multiple camera angles - that's not likely to happen. I mostly need the computer to work with the Adobe apps, less with FCP.


Regarding the buying options - I specified my options and the price differences because in my country these are the best priced options available and they are as is - upgrades not available (meaning - if I want the 2TB drive, I must go with the M395 GPU).


Thanks!

Jul 14, 2016 3:30 AM in response to dndn

The problem bottleneck or issue is no matter what, Adobe does not support AMD graphics cards for After Effects or any of their video apps like Premiere.

On the Mac side, it's all NVidia cards which all the new slimline model iMacs do not use.

So, I cannot comment on how well the AMD graphics cards will perform with Adobe After Effects.

At the very least, there will be NO GRAPHICS ACCELERATION on the AMD graphics usong After Effects.


As far as the Apple website in your country goes, if you click on the blue Buy button at the top of iMac lineup page then choose select a model on model listing page, in the Apple Store, you do not get a new page that showcases other available options like shown here in the U.S. Store?


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Jul 14, 2016 3:38 AM in response to MichelPM

Thanks!

I had no idea that the AMD graphic cards are useless for Adobe apps...

I assumed they did because they are popular among AE designers.


That would be a reason to reconsider getting a mac after all...

It's a tough decision because I've always been a mac user I really love the compact design and the 5k display!


Regarding the buying options - I'm not looking at the official Apple store because their prices are about 30% higher than other sellers. That's the reason that I can't choose to upgrade the hard drive.

Jul 14, 2016 4:29 AM in response to dndn

The AMD graphics would, probably be fine for Adobe creative suite apps, just not for their video suite of apps.

You would have to stick with Final Cut Pro X for best video editing performance.

Apple and Adobe are competitors.

So, naturally, Apple will do eveything they can to optimise Macs for use with their own suite of apps and, basically, keep the competition crippled on Apple computing hardware.

This seems to be the case with video software.

For general video work, while GPU is a factor , it really comes down to a very fast CPU(fast i7 quad core w/8 channel multithreading), scads of RAM (at least 16 GBs of RAM and more) and fast read/write multiple large capacity storage drives (Thunderbolt or USB 3) striped in series in a fast RAID array.

Jul 14, 2016 4:56 AM in response to dndn

The combination of an SSD (solid state flash drive) and 7200 RPM hard drive will be nearly identical to a full blown, straight up SSD.

The fusion drives in the 27 inch iMac models are faster than a just a normal 7200 RPM hard drive.

The SSD part of the fusion drive makes booting, launching and internal running of applications faster.

Read/writes to the 7200 RPM hard drive part of the fusion drive will be the same as a normal 7200 RPM hard drive.

Jul 14, 2016 9:53 AM in response to MichelPM

My question was about the 1TB Fusion drive (which has the 5400rpm HHD) vs the 1TB 7200 purely HHD drive.

Since most of the work load will be on the 5400rpm HHD part of the fusion drive, I'm not sure that I gain much by having it. I guess Safari and Mail and small downloads would be faster

But if, say, Photoshop or FCP are on the SSD and the files are on the HHD - would there be an improvement in performance?


I'm well aware of the advantages of the 2TB fusion drive. However, the price difference is substantial (as I explained in my first post) and I don't really need the space.

Jul 14, 2016 5:51 PM in response to dndn

I beleive all the new 27 inch screen model iMacs use the the same 7200 RPM hard drive component, even with the fusion (SSD part of the drive) just like the smaller 21 inch screen models all use 5400 RPM hard drive, even in the Fusion drives for those models.

I restate, the 27 inch screen model fusion drives all use desktop standard 7200 RPM hard drives as part of fusion drive.

The 27 inch screen iMacs are all better grade components than the 21 incj screen models and still allow user upgradeable RAM.

What info do you have to the contrary?

Where or who gave you this info?

No 27 inch model iMacs have fusion drives with a slower 5400 hard drive component.

I would never, EVER purchase a large screen 27 inch iMac at their much higher cost if all the hard drive components in the fusion drive were the slower 5400 RPM drives.

In the 27 inch screen models, the 1TB fusion drive pairs a 256 GB SSD with a 7200 RPM drive.

The 2 and 3 TB fusion drives pair a 128 GB fusion drive with a 2 and 3 TB 7200 RPM drive.

Jul 15, 2016 3:12 AM in response to MichelPM

I got this info from the seller of the iMacs... I read it in some forum that was ranting about the new 1TB fusion drive reducing the SSD to 24GB . So I asked him specifically about the 1TB fusion drive and he said the HHD is 5400rpm...


When it comes to the fusion drives, the speed of the HHD that is paired with the SSD isn't specified anywhere that I can find (on the web). Where does your info come from?


But even if the drive is 7200rpm, the question is if there's any difference between the two (Fusion and just HHD) besides faster startup.

Jul 15, 2016 7:44 AM in response to dndn

See this MacWorld review on the new 2015 iMacs.


The 27inch screen models retain 7200 RPM drives even in the Fusion Drives.

And none on the 27 inch screen models has a 24 GB SSD flash drive.

It's either a 256 GB SSD or a 128 GB SSD.


http://www.macworld.com/article/2025363/review-27-inch-imac-mixes-advancements-c ompromises.html


The differences as I pointed out is that apps launch and run quicker as long as they do not constantly have to access the hard drive portion of the fusion drive.


That's the difference. Also, with quicker booting, faster app launches and running apps from the SSD part of the fusion drive means less wear and tear on the mechanical spinning platters of the normal hard drive portion of the fusion drive.

It's a win/win.

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