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Q: iMessage preferences doesn't open

My iMessage is working fine and all except for the preferences not opening up. I have tried the Font Book validating AppleGothic approach but it doesn't help. To be clear - the preference button is not grey and using the shortcut keys command + , also doesn't work (flickers the Messages title on the menu bar on top).

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X El Capitan (10.11.5)

Posted on Jul 18, 2016 6:52 AM

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  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 18, 2016 12:20 PM in response to MorguMog
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    Jul 18, 2016 12:20 PM in response to MorguMog

    Hi,

     

    That is interesting.

     

    You are right to think that the app would not work if the AppleGothic Font were missing which is the most common cause for the Preferences to be greyed out and not working.

     

    That suggests that the App has lost contact with the process that brings up the Preferences.

     

    You state you are using OS X 10.11.5

    Which version does Messages say it is ?

    There is a possibility that the app has not updated properly.

    Is it in the Application Folder ? (not inside another folder within Applications ?) as an Update will ignore the app if this is the case.

     

    The Console App (Applications/Utilities) may give some hint in the messages it constantly streams.

    It is best to have it open  and then see what pops up when you try to open them.

     

    I would also try a NVRAM reset

     

    If that does not help launch Disk Utility (Applications/Utilities again) (After making a backup) and use the First AID tab after selecting the Boot Drive if not already selected.

     

     

     

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    8:20 pm      Monday; July 18, 2016

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (El Capitan)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     iPhone and an iPad (2)
  • by MorguMog,

    MorguMog MorguMog Jul 18, 2016 8:10 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jul 18, 2016 8:10 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Messages is version 9.2 and it is in the application folder (not within another separate folder inside).

     

    When I try to open preferences with console up, this is what it reads:

     

    Screen Shot 2016-07-19 at 1.03.55 PM.png

    I'm not sure what this means but do you still recommend a NVRAM reset?

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 20, 2016 12:43 PM in response to MorguMog
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    Jul 20, 2016 12:43 PM in response to MorguMog

    Hi,

     

    Sorry for the delay.

     

    Items like that to refer to things the App calls upon as it Starts up.

    It can be as simple as the Contacts App not having the correct My Card.

    Open Contacts and go to the Card Menu > Show My Card.

    Is this your details ?

     

    I would still do the NVRAM reset.

    It is safe as it is not very destructive in what it does. (mostly emptying caches that are not touched during other maintenance processes)

     

    Also check the Font Book for Helvetica  and Lucida Grande

    The second is used in Buddy Lists but needs to be in place.

    The Helvetica has been used by many app for the general text of the window titles and the text you may enter - although this have changed in Messages more recently.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    8:43 pm      Wednesday; July 20, 2016

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (El Capitan)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     iPhone and an iPad (2)
  • by MorguMog,

    MorguMog MorguMog Jul 24, 2016 10:02 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jul 24, 2016 10:02 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    It is showing my details when I go to My Card.

    I have checked and validated those two fonts.

    I have just completed a NVRAM reset.

     

    Messages preferences does still not open up unfortunately. It's odd because it was working a few months ago when I got the laptop and I haven't tried to access it since so I'm not sure when exactly it started to happen as well.

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 25, 2016 1:55 PM in response to MorguMog
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    Jul 25, 2016 1:55 PM in response to MorguMog

    Hi,

     

    Is this in an Admin or Standard Mac User Account ?

    If you are using Managed then you may not have access to things that later the use of the app.

     

    In this case you may not be allowed to create new Accounts in messages or add Buddies to Buddy Lists if you you use them.

     

     

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    9:55 pm      Monday; July 25, 2016

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (El Capitan)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     iPhone and an iPad (2)
  • by MorguMog,

    MorguMog MorguMog Jul 25, 2016 2:42 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jul 25, 2016 2:42 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    It is an Admin account.

    Just messed around with the Buddies menu and it seems to work fine.

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 26, 2016 12:13 PM in response to MorguMog
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    Jul 26, 2016 12:13 PM in response to MorguMog

    Hi,

     

    I am sorry,  the whole thing is now working after you jiggled with the Buddy lists or the Buddy Lists are the bit that are working ?

     

     

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    8:13 pm      Tuesday; July 26, 2016

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (El Capitan)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     iPhone and an iPad (2)
  • by MorguMog,

    MorguMog MorguMog Jul 26, 2016 9:19 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)
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    Jul 26, 2016 9:19 PM in response to Ralph Johns (UK)

    Oh sorry, I meant that the Buddies is working fine. The preferences still does not open up.

  • by Ralph Johns (UK),

    Ralph Johns (UK) Ralph Johns (UK) Jul 27, 2016 12:29 PM in response to MorguMog
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    Jul 27, 2016 12:29 PM in response to MorguMog

    Hummm,

     

    It is almost as if the Preferences are not there.

    Now the Preferences and some of the settings in the Menus are stored in .plist item in the Users Home folder/Library/Preferences or ~/Library/Preferences for short.

     

    Try this.

    Open a Finder window.

    Now use the Go Menu whilst Holding down the ALT key.

    Select the Library that appears.

    Navigate to Preferences.

     

    Change to cover Flow view if you are not already using it

    Using the View Menu > Show View Options choose to show the Modified column.

     

    Now look for com.apple.iChat.plist

    This holds most of the info that would be in the Preferences and some of the Menu items.

     

    Make Messages the front App.

    Go to the View Menu

    Choose one of the Active items and change it's setting.

    I would try two, Sort Conversations and Show All Buddy Pics in Conversations (in this case Buddies includes Contacts)

    Does the com.apple.iChat.plist change the date/time in the Modified Column ?

     

     

     

     

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    8:29 pm      Wednesday; July 27, 2016

     

      iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (El Capitan)
     G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
     MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
     Mac OS X (10.6.8),
     iPhone and an iPad (2)