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Q: Consolidating external hard drives

I have somehow acquired, and used, four or five external hard drives. One is definitely irreparable. Another doesn't work, but I think it can be fixed. Anyway, would would happen if I consolidated all operable hard drives? Would there be any point to it?

 

If all data on all the drives-substitute whatever terms you like--were to be into one drive, how would it be organized? I think it would be great if all E-mail ended up in the same place. Likewise with iTunes, Photos, and everything else. However, I doubt that this would happen and that I would just end up with an unmanagable mess. Any thoughts on the subject? I'm thinking that it means that I will always have to search every external hard drive separately.

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Posted on Jul 28, 2016 5:03 PM

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  • by macjack,

    macjack macjack Jul 28, 2016 5:09 PM in response to Niku
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    Jul 28, 2016 5:09 PM in response to Niku

    The drawback to putting all your data into one large drive is when that drive fails (and they all do sooner or later) you'll have no backup. I'd suggest keeping a few drives the size of your internal drive. The way I'd set it up, in fact I have it setup just this way)

    Always keep your Mac backed up on an external disk with either Time Machine and/or a cloning utility like SuperDuper or CarbonCopy Cloner.

    One Time Machine and one up-to-date clone is a good combination. Then you can use TimeMachine to backup or restore your Mac. And use your clone as a platform you can boot from and continue to work normally if anything happens to your system or internal drive.

  • by Niku,

    Niku Niku Jul 28, 2016 5:35 PM in response to Niku
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    Jul 28, 2016 5:35 PM in response to Niku

    I don't think I made it clear that they all contain different stuff. Oh, there is some overlapping, but the external harddrive I'm using now only contains stuff that came from this computer, which I got in August of 2015. I remembered that when I went looking for an E-mail address and couldn't find it. That would be the beauty of consolidating files. If it worked, that would be the only way to go. I just don't know if it can be done. Yes, I know that you can load a harddrive from many sources, but would it be any good?That's the question.

  • by macjack,

    macjack macjack Jul 28, 2016 5:42 PM in response to Niku
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    Jul 28, 2016 5:42 PM in response to Niku

    Niku wrote:

     

    I don't think I made it clear that they all contain different stuff.I remembered that when I went looking for an E-mail address and couldn't find it. That would be the beauty of consolidating files. If it worked, that would be the only way to go. I just don't know if it can be done. Yes, I know that you can load a harddrive from many sources, but would it be any good?That's the question.

    Yes, you made it clear. You can add to the clone or the Time Machine volume by just dragging the file from the disks you are working from onto your hard drive and then letting Time Machine or SuperDuper! do it's work.

  • by Niku,

    Niku Niku Jul 28, 2016 9:15 PM in response to macjack
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    Jul 28, 2016 9:15 PM in response to macjack

    Well, I'm probably wrong, but I have the impression that Time Machine organizes by date rather than application. I don't like the idea of having to go search for something that way. What I'd like is for all of the, say, photos to be in one place, so that  so matter when a photo was added to my computer, I would be able to find it in my external hard drive in the photo section. Sure, they could be organized by dates WITHIN the application, but they would all be filed together in the space for photos. If this is, in fact, the way things are set up, why is the column on the right-hand side organized by date? What am I missing? Why do you have to pick a date to find a photo?

  • by macjack,

    macjack macjack Jul 29, 2016 6:01 AM in response to Niku
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    Jul 29, 2016 6:01 AM in response to Niku

    The way TM works, is through your own file organization. When you want to find something, just go to your internal hard drive and choose whatever file/folder you are looking for. (If you're not sure where it is do a Spotlight search.) Then enter TM and it will show you that file/folder chronologically. If you want to revert to a previous time just choose "Revert". I prefer a clone over TM but each has their own benefits.

    I keep both a Time Machine backup and clones. You can use a cloning software like SuperDuper! or CarbonCopy Cloner.

    The advantage of the clone is that it is bootable. So, if your hard drive fails you can just boot from the backup and keep on working until you have the time to repair or replace the internal drive. You can also drag and drop files with the clone because it is the identical file structure.The advantage of TM is that it creates recursive backup, so you can restore a file or the entire drive from a certain point in time.

  • by Niku,

    Niku Niku Jul 29, 2016 7:12 AM in response to macjack
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    Jul 29, 2016 7:12 AM in response to macjack

    Thanks for that. I'm just going to have to read that book I mentioned earlier. I still don't understand the need for that vertical calendar on the right side of the Time Machine screen. To me, the reasonable and expected thing would be to type the desired file name into the Time Machine search bar, not the computer's search bar.  That calendar implies, to me at any rate, that you can't find the file unless you know the date that something or other happened or was done to it. If you want to find the osmosis file, you type osmosis. Why can't it be that simple? Something like Spotlight USED to be. Spotlight can no longer be depended upon to find things. It's just not as useful as it once was., More Apple tinkering? I mean, they ruined iTunes with continual and unnecessary tweaks, so maybe that's what they've done to Spotlight. If something is doing a great job, LEAVE IT ALONE.

  • by dialabrain,

    dialabrain dialabrain Jul 29, 2016 7:24 AM in response to Niku
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    Jul 29, 2016 7:24 AM in response to Niku

    FWIW, Time Machine is an incremental backup system. The reason the calendar is there is you may want to find a copy of a file you changed from a week ago, a month ago, etc.

  • by Niku,

    Niku Niku Jul 29, 2016 7:36 AM in response to dialabrain
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    Jul 29, 2016 7:36 AM in response to dialabrain

    Okay, what you're saying gives me hope. So you can just type in what you're looking for, go to that stack, and  sift through it until you find exactly what you're looking for. That makes sense. That's the way it should be, assuming that all uploads from different hard drives someone find their way to their proper place. I'm in the midst of a project that should take me through the weekend to complete, but when it's finished, I'm definitely going to read that damned book from cover-to-cover.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jul 29, 2016 7:41 AM in response to Niku
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    Jul 29, 2016 7:41 AM in response to Niku

    You don't type it in, you scroll through the stack until you find the bit you want. By date.

     

    The simplest method is to open Calendar, then start Time Machine and scroll to the date you want.

  • by Niku,

    Niku Niku Jul 29, 2016 7:47 AM in response to Csound1
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    Jul 29, 2016 7:47 AM in response to Csound1

    Well, I've already said enough, too much, so the LAST thing I'm going to say is that your method sounds like the worst possible way to me. It's not simple or even practical. How often would I know that date? Almost never, I'd say. THE END.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jul 29, 2016 8:09 AM in response to Niku
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    Jul 29, 2016 8:09 AM in response to Niku

    You may do as you please.