when punching in logic not recording pre

Using logic 10.2.4


I set up punch in and punch out locators. I play along with the track and do the punch in. Logic isn't recording any of the early pre roll ...in other words if I try to widen the newly created region a little earlier to catch a pickup or something I hit early nothing is there. I know logic is supposed to record early just in case... is there a setting that I'm missing? I've tried the record pre roll and set to 6 seconds but still nothing early is recorded before the punch in point. Same thing happens in replace or creating take folders.

Posted on Jul 30, 2016 7:15 PM

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Jul 31, 2016 6:34 AM in response to peterteleman

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The count-in and Record Pre Roll above are mutually exclusive. They do not define how early the recording starts but rather where the playhead is defined prior to the start of the recording. If you have a 2 bar count-in set and position the playhead at bar 10, then press record. Logic will position the playhead at bar 8, start playback ( if there is something to play) and then begins recording at bar 10. If you select a pre-roll in seconds, the playhead will jump back 6 seconds as opposed to bars. Neither defines the amount of pre-roll in the in the actual recorded audio.


Auto Punch in is just that. Where the recording starts/stops. There is no pre-roll recorded. If you want extra recording time before or after, then elongate the autopunch bar to include room for starting early or ending late.


You could also use take folders which might be a suitable replacement and would allowing comping of any part you want.


There one exception to this and will achieve exactly what you want - but it does not work with auto punch. That is punch on the fly....


pre-requisite - you must have "quick punch" enabled.


Press play and internally logic begins recording from the moment you press play, when ready to punch in, hit R and you will begin recording, when done hit stop. Logic has recorded a region between the points where you started recording and hit stop. However, logic actually starting recording ( under the hood) from the moment you pressed play, So if you look in the project browser you will see the entire audio region with only the define recording points as the region.


It is only this case that allows you to expand the region back in time to encompass any part of the audio region that was "pre" the defined recording points. It's actually will contain the entire audio file from the moment play was pressed until stop, even with the quick punch point defined later in the song.


So say you have 10 bars - you start playback at bar 1 and at bar 5 you quick punch in and at bar 7 you punch out. The defined region will show bars 5-7, however if you expand the audio regions start point to the left - you will find you actually recorded all the way back to bar 1.

Sorry this feature is not available if autopunch is the method of choice.

Jul 31, 2016 7:49 AM in response to Indyuser

Thanks for the reply-however In a course on Lynda.com(logic pro10 essential training) they do what I describe. In the video "punching in and loop recording with audio" he does exactly what I am trying to do....sets up locators with auto punch...records audio. then drags edges of regions out (of punch) and shows logic captured audio during pre and post roll -in case you missed something. (4min40 seconds into video lesson). so what am I missing? Confused.......

Jul 31, 2016 11:56 AM in response to peterteleman

I just watched the video and all I can tell you is that video was made when logic pro x first came out in 2013. That behavior as seen in the video is not how logic works, certainly not in the current version. It used to be ( logic 9 I think) that you would record 1 bar of pre and post when auto punching. Current version does not seem to do that. I don't know if it was by design or not.

So you are not missing anything

(I have been wrong before: so if you discover this is not the case - please let us know)

Jul 31, 2016 10:54 AM in response to Indyuser

thanks very much for your time. Strange that logic would drop this behavior since it seems such a basic workflow issue. I use this technique all the time in pro tools. When I do acoustic guitar tracks I really like this because you can go back when needed and make the transition smoother between takes. Also sometimes the player does something unexpected that you like coming into the phrase. Bummer. Thanks again....trying to get workflow better with logic and it's taking a minute.

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