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Q: How to move or rename music folder?

I have a 50.000 classified songs, and thousands of podcasts, mixes, music videos or apps.

 

I understood that the so-called freezing and lagging issues of iTunes all came down to one pretty important or maybe completely stupid thing which is the "keep the library organised option". Which doesn't make one sense, is impossible to run (it would take days, and of course it freezes the whole computer), puts files where you didn't asked them to be and then doesn't know how to retrieve them.

 

Because I'm taking advantage of a summer break, I'm cleaning up my drives, and so I decided to do some cleaning, rename and move my music folder which contains all my music classified by artists alongside the iTunes folder.

 

Lucky for me I have zero trust for Apple, like they were ISIS, so I retain the number and position of the files because I realise that, of course when a play a music it play fine BECAUSE itunes finds the song even though it has move which it's supposed to do with finder filesystem.

 

But then I reboot iTunes to test and here you have this infuriating, incomprehensible "song not found" problem with all my songs, and even though I indicate the new placement of the library this iTunes crap is incapable of finding the songs and it probably take years to reindex them, like iTunes was even capable of that without ******* up the computer.

 

So: How can I move/rename my file without iTunes ******* up the library and paths to music? Or is there any decent replacement for this **** software yet? I have lots of things and people to manage just in music, even though I've been using it for 15 years I don't have the patience to put up with this **** Apple seems to willingly make worse every update, anymore.

MacBook Air, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Aug 4, 2016 4:52 PM

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  • by turingtest2,Helpful

    turingtest2 turingtest2 Aug 4, 2016 6:04 PM in response to augurae
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    Aug 4, 2016 6:04 PM in response to augurae
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    augurae augurae Aug 4, 2016 6:17 PM in response to turingtest2
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    Aug 4, 2016 6:17 PM in response to turingtest2

    This is unbearable ********. So if I just want to rename my folder, you're telling me it's uncapable of doing what winamp an even windows media player were able to do 15 years ago.

     

    I refuse to this all **** just to be able to simply rename a folder, in fact with tens of thousands of sound it's simply impossible because it says it would take days, I'am going to have my last Mac refund, tired of these unusable ****.

     

    Thanks for you help anyway.

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    turingtest2 turingtest2 Aug 5, 2016 6:50 AM in response to augurae
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    Aug 5, 2016 6:50 AM in response to augurae

    iTunes is principally a database. If you start moving content around manually it gets confused. OS X will generally cope if you move or rename things on the same volume which would completely break things if you did it in iTunes for Windows. iTunes works perfectly well if you leave it to its own devices. Problems arise if you try to take manual control without taking into account how iTunes actually works. The user tip I've linked to shows the standard library layout. One possible approach would be to copy the existing library files to an iTunes folder in the root of a new external drive, access the new copy of the .itl, and then over time selectively consolidate content to the new media folder at /Volume/iTunes/iTunes Media. E.g. consolidate all artists that begin with A, then do B, then do C. Any scheme where you can easily keep track will do. You don't have to consolidate all 50,000 tracks in one session. Once everything that can be consolidated has been you can look to repair or reimport any media that had broken links, deduplicate, etc.

     

    tt2

  • by augurae,

    augurae augurae Aug 5, 2016 6:53 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Aug 5, 2016 6:53 AM in response to turingtest2

    The problem is I've always have had my Music folder containing both my artists files and the iTunes Media folder. It's incredible that you can't ******* move or rename a file, even within iTunes preferences, without losing your whole library, or playlists, or covers or apps.

     

    Isn't there a way to directly edit the .itl file so that it point to the right folder and reindexes files accordingly since it's the same modified path?

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    turingtest2 turingtest2 Aug 5, 2016 7:44 AM in response to augurae
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    Aug 5, 2016 7:44 AM in response to augurae

    No. Using iTunes you can choose a new media folder. You can then either selectively or globally consolidate media to that new path. This method ensures that all links to the media, playlists etc. remain functional. Cleaning up the originals is left to the user. I've written Windows scripts for moving rather than copying media to either the standard layout or something more personal. Doug's Scripts for iTunes has similar scripts for Macs. If you start with the library in the portable shape, which is how iTunes will build it if you don't change anything, then the entire iTunes folder can be moved to a new path and accessed if you hold down option (Mac) or shift (Win) as you launch iTunes.

     

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    augurae augurae Aug 5, 2016 8:06 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Aug 5, 2016 8:06 AM in response to turingtest2

    Okay, so I will somehow have to redo all my playlist but I think the easiest way to rename and move my folder (which I don't want organised in iTunes Media but in a Music folder which directly contains all the artist folders and the iTunes Media folder) is to create a new library.

     

    here's the path /drive/Music/Big Music folder/artist_name+iTunes_HD folders that I want to transform into /drive/Music/artist_name+iTunes_HD folders

     

    But I get an unknown error 13008 when I do so (creating a new library in that new Music folder I create, and I now know that If I subsequently rename it after giving it a temporary name it'll break the library again anyway).

    Also I didn't find that specific Doug script.

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    turingtest2 turingtest2 Aug 5, 2016 8:28 AM in response to augurae
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    Aug 5, 2016 8:28 AM in response to augurae

    I would strongly recommend you create a new library in the form /Volume/iTunes with the media folder as /Volume/iTunes/iTunes Media for the least amount of friction going forward. Music would go in /Volume/iTunes/iTunes Media/Music, in your own layout if you prefer.

     

    The names of the library folder and media folder are optional, but using the standard name for the media folder at least makes it much easier to switch between libraries or move the library between systems. The relationship of library files in a parent folder that contains the nominated media folder as a direct child folder is required for portability.

     

    The script in question is Re-locate Selected. I think File Renamer might be closer to my approach if it also lets you define the folder structure.

     

    The error may indicate a permissions problem in the folder. Permissions on OS X aren't my forte, but in Windows your account and the system need full access to the library folder and everything inside it.

     

    tt2

  • by augurae,

    augurae augurae Aug 5, 2016 8:41 AM in response to turingtest2
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    Aug 5, 2016 8:41 AM in response to turingtest2

    Thanks, but I want to organise my folder in a clean and minimal way, so I don't want to be force by iTunes path scheme. I will look into the permissions problem, but don't know if what file is causing this potential problem. Thanks for your help.

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    turingtest2 turingtest2 Aug 5, 2016 8:49 AM in response to augurae
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    Aug 5, 2016 8:49 AM in response to augurae

    If you want to avoid problems further down the line use /<Volume>/iTunes/iTunes Media/<Any layout you want>, and use scripts to move content within the media folder once it has been attached to iTunes.

     

    Perhaps check the drive with Disk Utility. It may repair any odd permissions.

     

    tt2