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Q: When importing AVCHD from my camera does Photos convert it?

I have a Panasonic TZ camera. When I import my SD card form it to Photos, the videos import ok. I can play them, I also use iCloud photo library and they play on my iPhone as well.

 

Is Photos automatically converting the AVCHD (I believe they are actual *.mts files) to a format that can be used by Photos for Mac and iPhone/iPad etc?

 

If so am I loosing quality? Am I getting smaller file size videos? etc? Eventually I may want to trim/edit them from Photos for Mac, what should I do in this situation?

 

thanks

iMac, OS X El Capitan (10.11)

Posted on Aug 9, 2016 11:02 AM

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  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Aug 9, 2016 11:19 AM in response to QwertyMan11
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    Aug 9, 2016 11:19 AM in response to QwertyMan11

    I can't test right now, but you should be able to test this yourself.

     

    Use the export option from the file menu to export an unmodified version of a clip to your desktop, you should be able to tell immediately if the file is still an .mts or if it's been converted to a .mov (or something else) by photos in the same way that iMovie etc do.

     

    If it's unchanged you might want to undertake a further test by downloading the clip from iCloud.com to see if there's a conversion when it's uploaded via iCloud photo library.

     

    Sorry, I'm about to go out for the night or else I'd do it myself for you.

  • by QwertyMan11,

    QwertyMan11 QwertyMan11 Aug 9, 2016 11:24 AM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Aug 9, 2016 11:24 AM in response to Winston Churchill

    Hi thanks, if you can test when get chance thanks.

     

    I've just done as you said. I exported as original and the file is a QT *.mov file, with original resolution of 1920X1080, and has AAC, H.264 as the codecs.

     

    I dragged same file out and the file was *.m4v file

     

    So now I'm worried that I'm loosing quality? Am I by just dragging in the AVCHD SD card and letting Photos for Mac loose on it?

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Aug 9, 2016 11:39 AM in response to QwertyMan11
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    Aug 9, 2016 11:39 AM in response to QwertyMan11

    I suspect you aren't loosing quality. AVCHD is fairly highly compressed to begin with, my guess is you are getting much the same in a different container and that file size is similar, but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't larger.

     

    Dragging files out of Photos does change them (unlike the export option from the file menu), if I recall it changes the resolution as well (or it did last time I tested).

     

    I wouldn't worry about the conversion from AVCHD, the format isn't all that much use for playback or editing, it's more useful for capture, if were ever going to edit it, you'd need to convert it anyway.

  • by QwertyMan11,

    QwertyMan11 QwertyMan11 Aug 10, 2016 9:57 AM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Aug 10, 2016 9:57 AM in response to Winston Churchill

    Did you get a chance to test? Appreciate your input, seem to understand better than me!

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Aug 10, 2016 4:03 PM in response to QwertyMan11
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    Aug 10, 2016 4:03 PM in response to QwertyMan11

    Yes, I see the same as you, photos keeps the files as h264 in a .mov container, kind of makes sense in hindsight, AVCHD is a poor playback format.

  • by QwertyMan11,

    QwertyMan11 QwertyMan11 Aug 10, 2016 4:53 PM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Aug 10, 2016 4:53 PM in response to Winston Churchill

    Sorry for my ignorance on this, is this good then? So out doesn't convert it as such? Doesn't lose any quality, resolution, bit rate, frames etc when Photos imports? Does it increase/decrease the file size?

     

    If so I'm happy with this, and I'll drop all my AVCHD in.

    Thanks

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Aug 10, 2016 5:03 PM in response to QwertyMan11
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    Aug 10, 2016 5:03 PM in response to QwertyMan11

    Not at my computer at the moment, had assumed the video and audio tracks were simply repackaged rather than recompressed. Will check tomorrow, what files sizes do you see before and after import.

  • by QwertyMan11,

    QwertyMan11 QwertyMan11 Aug 10, 2016 5:17 PM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Aug 10, 2016 5:17 PM in response to Winston Churchill

    I'm unsure of the before as they are integrated into the AVCHD so I can't tell.

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Aug 11, 2016 4:48 AM in response to QwertyMan11
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    Aug 11, 2016 4:48 AM in response to QwertyMan11

    I'm getting different results this morning importing in a different way, will get back to you, but in the meantime are you importing with the camera connected or from a file already on your drive.

  • by QwertyMan11,

    QwertyMan11 QwertyMan11 Aug 11, 2016 5:08 AM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Aug 11, 2016 5:08 AM in response to Winston Churchill

    Just removing the SD from the camera and dragging the folder into Photos for Mac

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Aug 12, 2016 3:41 AM in response to QwertyMan11
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    Aug 12, 2016 3:41 AM in response to QwertyMan11

    OK, now here's a strange thing.

     

    I don't use my camera's any more, video isn't what it used to be now that anyone can take reasonably good video at any time, so I like many just use my phone now. However I connected my old camera up and imported a short clip which imported as a .mov

     

    When I took a second look, I'd copied the .mts to my desktop before disconnecting the camera, so I used this to import this time. It imported into Photos as a .mts (unmodified), it did however take a while to upload to the cloud and when I downloaded it again from iCloud.com it was a .mp4 file of about ¼ the bitrate/file size.

     

    The other noteworthy point is that it showed up on my phone as a greyed out .jpg with the notification at the foot of the screen that it was adding a video. It's been like that since yesterday, so it doesn't seem to me that it's going to go anywhere now. I was wondering if this could have any bearing on the experience you quoted in your other thread.

  • by QwertyMan11,

    QwertyMan11 QwertyMan11 Aug 12, 2016 3:47 AM in response to Winston Churchill
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    Aug 12, 2016 3:47 AM in response to Winston Churchill

    I've had this problem before, took me ages to realise. I also have some *.mts files that were stored on a old HDD, probably I deleted the folder structure or something.

     

    They imported into Photos for Mac and played fine. however on my iPhone I had a load of cloud icons and white spaces. Took me ages to realise it was these files. They wouldn't play on a iPhone, but were fine on a Mac after uploading to iCloud library.

     

    I would have thought it would have converted though to play on all devices, isn't that what iCloud library is for?

     

    So now I'm unsure what to do, hold out as they may be reducing my quality or what...

  • by Winston Churchill,

    Winston Churchill Winston Churchill Aug 12, 2016 4:09 AM in response to QwertyMan11
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    Aug 12, 2016 4:09 AM in response to QwertyMan11

    I don't have any proof, but I don't think there is any additional compression taking place when they are imported from the camera, don't forget AVCHD is highly compressed to begin with.