Rhys from nz

Q: Using airport extreme to wirelessly connect to isp network

Hi our isp delivers to us using wireless but only supports  two devices on network at any one time.

I am hoping to use an air port extreme to deliver from a wireless connection to my own network but I have had some issues with connecting to this network. air port sees it but wont completely connect to it, any ideas ?

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Posted on Aug 21, 2016 8:14 PM

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  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Aug 21, 2016 8:41 PM in response to Rhys from nz
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    Aug 21, 2016 8:41 PM in response to Rhys from nz

    All of the AirPort routers require a wired Ethernet cable connection from a modem or a modem/router for Internet access, so the AirPort Extreme is not going to be able to connect to your ISP network the way that you envision using only a wireless connection.

     

    Adding an AirPort Express and configuring it to "join" the wireless that your ISP provides.....and then connecting an Ethernet cable from the AirPort Express to the AirPort Extreme might possibly do what you want......but you will not know if a setup like this might work or not until you try it out.

  • by Rhys from nz,

    Rhys from nz Rhys from nz Aug 21, 2016 8:47 PM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Aug 21, 2016 8:47 PM in response to Bob Timmons

    Thanks Bob this is what I am trying to find out  will let yo know how I get on

  • by Rhys from nz,

    Rhys from nz Rhys from nz Aug 26, 2016 2:52 PM in response to Rhys from nz
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    Aug 26, 2016 2:52 PM in response to Rhys from nz

    Here's a good one for you

    tried what  Bob Timmons suggested, which is using a wireless access point configured to be a client and then feeding that to the wan port of the airport extreme.

    It works if you connect your computer to the  wired Ethernet to the airport extreme switch but if you connect to the wireless network that the airport creates it finds the  airport and has full access to the airport just not the internet.

    Any ideas?

    I have tried bridge mode and a couple of different things but the cable is the only one that works.

  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Aug 26, 2016 3:05 PM in response to Rhys from nz
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    Aug 26, 2016 3:05 PM in response to Rhys from nz

    It works if you connect your computer to the  wired Ethernet to the airport extreme switch but if you connect to the wireless network that the airport creates it finds the  airport and has full access to the airport just not the internet.

    Any ideas?

    I cannot duplicate the issue that you are reporting.

     

    Works for me very consistently when I'm traveling and the only Internet connection is wireless from the hotel. The Express joins the network and provides Ethernet to another AirPort Express....which could be an AirPort Extreme. Multiple wireless devices can connect simultaneously to the private network that the AirPort creates...and all have Internet access.

     

    There is probably more to your connection than you are describing here. If you want to pursue this, please start another thread.

  • by Rhys from nz,

    Rhys from nz Rhys from nz Aug 26, 2016 5:39 PM in response to Bob Timmons
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    Aug 26, 2016 5:39 PM in response to Bob Timmons

    I found my answer in the obscure depths of the help manual,

    when bridging the WAN connection to the Ethernet ports, via settings on the airport utility,

    full functionality is available on the Ethernet including internet, however the functionality doesn't extend to the wireless network that you create.

    Only resources on the airport are available.

    thanks for your help

  • by Bob Timmons,

    Bob Timmons Bob Timmons Aug 26, 2016 8:21 PM in response to Rhys from nz
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    Aug 26, 2016 8:21 PM in response to Rhys from nz

    You are talking about a different kind of setup.

     

    If I'm at a hotel that provides only a wireless connection......I use one AirPort Express to "join" the wireless network and provide an Ethernet connection to the WAN port on a second AirPort Express (it could be an Extreme as well).

     

    The second AirPort must be set up as a DHCP and NAT router. It cannot be in Bridge Mode. If I used Bridge Mode, at least two bad things would happen:

     

    1) I would be able to "see" other devices from other hotel guests on the network....and they would be able to "see" my devices. I don't want this....I want a private network.

     

    2) The hotel router would have to supply a separate IP address to each device on my network and the second AirPort would have to pass through all of that information.   So, I would be relying on the hotel router for multiple connections.

     

    With the second AirPort in router mode of DHCP and NAT, the hotel network only "sees" one device.....my AirPort. The hotel network does not see any of the other devices behind the second AirPort.....becasue they are all on a separate subnet.......yet each one has Internet access.

     

    This type of setup has worked for years for me. I can connect as many devices as I want to the second AirPort, either wired or wireless.....and the hotel still only "sees" one device.....the AirPort.