audiobook organize

I'm importing many audiobooks into iTunes.


While all seems well in iTunes, so far, I notice that in Finder the files are not organized by folders that indicate book titles. Instead, they are all jumbled together under a folder named for the author.


Not that how Finder does things really matters that much.


I've imported only a dozen or so titles but have many hundreds to go, including many books by the same writer. When I see what Finder is doing I'm thinking that there's a pice of missing metadata. Or user error. But what?


And even though it might not matter I'd like to know why Finder is doing this.


iTunes 12.4.3.1, MacOS 10.11.6.

iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 9.3.1

Posted on Aug 30, 2016 7:29 AM

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Posted on Dec 11, 2017 3:50 PM

There is a simple and somewhat manageable workaround for this but as you said, "inelegance" is definitely the right word to describe this nonsense:


Append the name of the book to the Album Artist tag. This then will create a folder for each book in the iTunes Media/Audiobooks folder.


The Album Artist tag does not show up in Audiobook mode if it is blank though so the Media Type has to be changed to Music first (File>Get Info>Options>Media Type>Music>Ok). Going then to Music mode, select your book, Get Info, add the new Album Artist tag then switch the Media Type option back to Audiobook.


Example:

Artist: J.R.R. Tolkien

Album: The Hobbit

Album Artist: J.R.R. Tolkien - Hobbit

And so on.


In the Finder this will then be the result:

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Hobbit/[Hobbit files]

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Lord of the Rings 1: Fellowship/[LOTR1 files]

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Lord of the Rings 2: Two Towers/[LOTR2 files]

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Lord of the Rings 3: Return King/[LOTR3 files]

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Silmarillion/[Silmarillion files]


And of course the author name can be Last-First in the Album Artist tag if you want the folders to show in proper Library order.

Depending on preference, in List View for Audiobooks, show column browser and control-click on the Authors heading then select “Use Album Artists”.


So it’s a workaround, it works decently, it’s relatively easy, and frankly I hate it. YMMV

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Dec 11, 2017 3:50 PM in response to Michael Spencer

There is a simple and somewhat manageable workaround for this but as you said, "inelegance" is definitely the right word to describe this nonsense:


Append the name of the book to the Album Artist tag. This then will create a folder for each book in the iTunes Media/Audiobooks folder.


The Album Artist tag does not show up in Audiobook mode if it is blank though so the Media Type has to be changed to Music first (File>Get Info>Options>Media Type>Music>Ok). Going then to Music mode, select your book, Get Info, add the new Album Artist tag then switch the Media Type option back to Audiobook.


Example:

Artist: J.R.R. Tolkien

Album: The Hobbit

Album Artist: J.R.R. Tolkien - Hobbit

And so on.


In the Finder this will then be the result:

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Hobbit/[Hobbit files]

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Lord of the Rings 1: Fellowship/[LOTR1 files]

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Lord of the Rings 2: Two Towers/[LOTR2 files]

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Lord of the Rings 3: Return King/[LOTR3 files]

/iTunes Media/Audiobooks/J.R.R. Tolkien - Silmarillion/[Silmarillion files]


And of course the author name can be Last-First in the Album Artist tag if you want the folders to show in proper Library order.

Depending on preference, in List View for Audiobooks, show column browser and control-click on the Authors heading then select “Use Album Artists”.


So it’s a workaround, it works decently, it’s relatively easy, and frankly I hate it. YMMV

Jul 24, 2017 4:17 AM in response to Michael Spencer

The flat folder structure under audiobooks is clearly ridiculous - it boggles my mind that the person who came up with this could have possibly missed that occasionally authors write multiple books.


The best I've been able to do is hack it by setting the author field to "<author name> - <book title>". This at least forces iTunes to separate books into different folders.

Aug 30, 2016 11:09 AM in response to Limnos

Well, I believe that they are, yes (remember it's audiobooks; Finder usually makes an Author folder, and within that it makes a Title folder.


I'm looking now: Title and Author are both populated. I notice that the files are all mp3 but that shouldn't matter.


Perhaps that's the default. Maybe someone with multiple books by the same writer can confirm how they are organized in Finder.

Aug 31, 2016 11:58 AM in response to turingtest2

Yes 'inelegance' is the best word, I suppose, for the flat file approach.


And, if you put numbers in front of the file names (as you do on your web site and assuming that Windows and MacOS do the same thing) you ed up with a Finder list that looks like this:


1 title 1.mp3

1 title 2.mp3

2 title 1.mp3

2. title.mp3


And so on.


Apparently there's no way to have iTunes create a 'proper' folder structure; but this is weird, because my old iTunes library (I'm digging myself out of a mess with a new lib) very certainly has folder structure:


Author/title1/tracks

and then inside Author I'd see: /title2/tracks

and so on.


Of course fussing with iTunes track is a no-no so I don't suppose it matters. But I do likes me some elegant Finder.


(and audiobooks have this additional issue: each book has an author and a narrator field which is useful but doesn't quite behave right; this is a different issue)


Thanks for the help.

Aug 31, 2016 12:37 PM in response to Michael Spencer

You're welcome. 🙂


OS X can be a little more forgiving than Windows if you manually reorganize files within the same volume, however you might be storing up trouble for when you need to move the library in future. The other approach is to turn off the iTunes Keep Organized feature and manually organize everything the way you want it before you add it to iTunes, but that requires more effort for little real reward.


I consider the author more significant than the narrator when it comes to organizing audiobooks, likewise the composer for classical music generally replaces the artist & album artist in my library with the performers getting a spot in the comments. If only iTunes would give us access to a few more fields and allow some of them to be collections as intended.


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