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Sep 3, 2016 11:18 PM in response to Izmisusaisby John Galt,Any other ideas?
Sure. Get rid of Google. Installing Google products modifies a Mac in the exact same manner as a "virus", if such a thing were to exist on a Mac, which it doesn't. Google also insists on installing a constantly-running process that automatically checks for and updates those modifications without your intervention, in the exact same way a "virus" might do also. I know of no other company that does that, not even Apple. That means a Mac that runs acceptably well one day might start to run poorly the next, making it difficult to correlate that poor performance to anything you might have done.
Running a torrent client is also asking for trouble.
You asked how long it takes an iMac to boot. It can vary, but booting from a traditional hard disk drive, the answer is about a minute, a minute and a half at most, to the login screen. A recent Mac with solid state memory should take less than thirty seconds. As long as Google remains installed through, it's not your Mac. You ceded control of it to Google. They should be paying you to use it. After all, it's your personal information they're harvesting and selling to anyone willing to pay for it.
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Sep 4, 2016 7:17 AM in response to Izmisusaisby macjack,Run another EtreCheck report, some files may have been left behind. As far as upgrading to Sierra, it is not a good idea. An update can only exacerbate the problem. Fix it now, before upgrading. A clean install will certainly fix it, but it would be nice to find a way short of that.
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Sep 4, 2016 7:34 AM in response to Izmisusaisby dialabrain,FWIW, most of my Macs take about 20-25 seconds to boot to the desktop. And yes, I have Google Chrome installed on all six so I don't think that's your problem.
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Sep 4, 2016 7:43 AM in response to Csound1by dialabrain,About which part? The boot time or that I have Chrome installed on all of them?
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Sep 4, 2016 7:48 AM in response to Csound1by dialabrain,Csound1 wrote:
About Chrome
So, you disagree with me that I have Chrome installed on all of them. You can come to my house and see for yourself. If I just posted six screenshots I'm sure some would think they're faked.
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Sep 4, 2016 7:53 AM in response to dialabrainby Csound1,Are deliberately being obtuse or do you really not understand?
Chrome is junk, is that clear enough for you?
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Sep 4, 2016 7:59 AM in response to Csound1by dialabrain,It could be that I'm being obtuse because I vehemently disagree that Chrome is junk. If I did, I wouldn't have it on all my Macs, not to mention my Windows 10 laptop and my Linux box and virtual machines.
I also have Firefox installed on all of them, safari of course on the Macs. I have the developer version of Opera on one iMac, the Fluid Browser, the Safari Technology Preview etc. etc.
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Sep 4, 2016 7:59 AM in response to macjackby Izmisusais,EtreCheck version: 3.0.3 (307)
Report generated 2016-09-04 17:57:55
Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com
Runtime 1:50
Performance: Excellent
Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.
Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.
Problem: Other problem
iMac (21.5-inch, Late 2013)
[Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]
iMac - model: iMac14,1
1 2,7 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 4-core
8 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]
BANK 0/DIMM0
4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
BANK 1/DIMM0
4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok
Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported
Wireless: en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
Intel Iris Pro
iMac 1920 x 1080
OS X El Capitan 10.11.6 (15G1004) - Time since boot: about 5 hours
APPLE HDD HTS541010A9E662 disk0 : (1 TB) (Rotational)
EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB
Macintosh HD (disk0s2) / : 999.35 GB (817.32 GB free)
Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 650 MB
Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub
Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub
Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard
Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
Mac App Store and identified developers
[not loaded] 7 Apple tasks
[loaded] 154 Apple tasks
[running] 77 Apple tasks
[not loaded] 46 Apple tasks
[loaded] 152 Apple tasks
[running] 93 Apple tasks
[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2016-07-12) [Support]
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (2014-11-29) [Support]
[running] jp.co.canon.ScanGearMF.appl.Canon-MF-Scan-Agent.plist (2012-09-12) [Support]
[running] jp.co.canon.ScanGearMF.appl.Canon-MFSU-Agent.plist (2014-12-11) [Support]
[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-06-29) [Support]
[loaded] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2016-09-02) [Support]
[loaded] com.microsoft.autoupdate.helpertool.plist (2016-08-03) [Support]
[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist (2014-11-17) [Support]
[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (2015-09-11) [Support]
[loaded] com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (2014-11-29) [Support]
[loaded] com.bittorrent.uTorrent.plist (2016-03-30)
[running] com.spotify.webhelper.plist (2016-08-26) [Support]
FlashPlayer-10.6: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-12) [Support]
QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-07-21)
Flash Player: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.9 (2016-07-12) [Support]
Default Browser: 601 - SDK 10.11 (2016-07-21)
SharePointBrowserPlugin: 14.5.6 - SDK 10.6 (2015-10-10) [Support]
PepperFlashPlayer: 22.0.0.209 - SDK 10.6 (2016-07-12) [Support]
JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 101 build 13 (2016-08-12) Check version
Avast Online Security - AVAST Software - http://www.avast.com (2014-11-29)
Flash Player (2016-06-29) [Support]
Java (2016-08-12) [Support]
Mobile backups: OFF
Auto backup: YES
Volumes being backed up:
Macintosh HD: Disk size: 999.35 GB Disk used: 182.02 GB
Destinations:
Data [Network]
Total size: 2.00 TB
Total number of backups: 50
Oldest backup: 04.07.16 15:59
Last backup: 04.09.16 17:06
Size of backup disk: Adequate
Backup size 2.00 TB > (Disk used 182.02 GB X 3)
2% WindowServer
2% Google Chrome Helper(7)
1% fontd
1% kernel_task
0% cloudpaird
2.05 GB Google Chrome Helper(7)
745 MB kernel_task
229 MB Google Chrome
164 MB iTunes
147 MB mds_stores
547 MB Free RAM
7.46 GB Used RAM (2.94 GB Cached)
0 B Swap Used
Sep 4, 2016, 12:49:12 PM Self test - passed
Sep 4, 2016, 08:04:51 AM ~/Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/cloudd_2016-09-04-080451_[redacted].crash
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/CloudKitDaemon.framework/Support/cloudd
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Sep 4, 2016 8:00 AM in response to dialabrainby Csound1,It's a free country so you can pick any limb to perch on, so can I so I am free to disagree.
Have a nice day.
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Sep 4, 2016 8:02 AM in response to Csound1by dialabrain,It would be nice if your "opinion" was based on any facts though. But I guess that doesn't count for much on here.
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Sep 4, 2016 8:04 AM in response to Izmisusaisby Csound1,25% of your available RAM is in use by Chrome.
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Sep 4, 2016 8:07 AM in response to Csound1by dialabrain,Yes it is which has zero to do with boot times.
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Sep 4, 2016 8:13 AM in response to dialabrainby Izmisusais,Ok, then clean install it is! At last I can put my TC to some use