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Sep 6, 2016 2:41 AM in response to flag2by Luis Sequeira1,flag2 wrote:
After 7 years from 2009 till 2016: This problem still exists.
I am a little curious because I had never heard of it in all those years and OS versions.
Are you personally affected? Does this process use too much cpu, does it crash, or what?
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Sep 6, 2016 4:30 AM in response to flag2by Barney-15E,I've never seen spindump kill the performance on my Macs.
Spindump only runs if another program hangs.
What programs do you have installed that constantly hang up?
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Sep 6, 2016 11:58 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1by flag2,Ha, I have filed 50+ problems, bug reports, hardware problems, software problems, etc. nothing helped.
Apple seems to focus on "cool, but most of the time useless" features, instead of fixing serious bugs.
After a few problems, they (on the apple bug-reporter) told me to "not use Firefox" and XY, ... so what?!
So I used Safari alone... but this also did not help. CPU screwed up. Next is maybe, you should "not use Mac" ....
List, I stopped counting the Apple BUGs:
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Sep 6, 2016 5:51 AM in response to Barney-15Eby flag2,There are many problems with macOS and it's hardware... many... also simple usability problems. Well known, over decades. Nothing get's fixed, instead some "cool" useless features...
I personally filed over 50+ bugs etc. with the official bug reporter... nothing helped.
Source:
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Sep 6, 2016 5:55 AM in response to flag2by Csound1,Not that I have experienced, what is different about your devices and mine?
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Sep 6, 2016 6:07 AM in response to Csound1by flag2,spindump - is one problem for overheating your Mac. killing it, does recover some CPU power.
My Mac heats up up to 100°C that you can burn your hands (literally!) and cooke an egg or two... (very cool.)
Sitting on a 8 mm cork plate.
Yes, it was in repair for many times... can't count.... nothing helped.
Just "not use XY" App, it's destroys CPU, etc... what?!!
An OS and CPU is for using Apps? Right?
It's true, that Apple (and many other companies) DO NOT test anything - the customers are the testers - at least the beta testers.
There are bugs that you run into by just using the OS a day for about 24 hours... just just it... and you face about 10+ bugs, usability, etc. etc. but no, they don't test it.
Then they say: It's "by design"....
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Sep 6, 2016 6:03 AM in response to flag2by Csound1,That was more of a stream of conciousness than an explanation. So I will simply shake my head and wish you good luck, as I have no idea what you are talking about.
Good luck.
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Sep 6, 2016 6:17 AM in response to Csound1by flag2,spindump - is one problem for overheating your Mac. killing it, does recover some CPU power.
You must be a Apple Tester, good luck... stop listening to your customers...
PS: It's by design...
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Sep 6, 2016 7:17 AM in response to flag2by dialabrain,flag2 wrote:
List, I stopped counting the Apple BUGs:
https://www.flagsoft.com/cmswp/en/articles/top-10-user-interface-design-flaws-wi thin-os-x/
FWIW, I found more than 5 flaws/bugs on your "List"
1. you have only three items listed on your "Top 10" #1, #2, #3
2. the option/alt + green button's behavior is dependent on how a third-party developer codes the app.
3. I have no problem scrolling in full screen.
4. Alt+Tab is not the correct keyboard shortcut to move between the windows of an app. "Command + Shift + ~" is.
5. You can in fact copy and paste in the same folder. The Finder adds the word "copy" when you paste.
6. Typo…
Hold down alt- white clicking on the green button does a normal zoom again
Should be while.
Good job though.
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Sep 6, 2016 8:23 AM in response to dialabrainby flag2,I just updated the list. (Thanks for reporting! I fixed some typo, etc..)
https://www.flagsoft.com/cmswp/en/articles/top-10-user-interface-design-flaws-wi thin-os-x/
To 1: Yes, there are not 10 points but... there are zillions(?) of bugs I could list...
If Apple only would fix some of them, I would be more then happy. And these are well known, common problems for many people. I tested it. I did some screen capture videos and people react to my youtube videos about having the same problems.
To 2: The strange green button - I just stopped using it. because it does ugly things.
To 3: Scrolling does not work
And yes, you can not scroll if you miss the tiny little scroll bar on the right... this is a design flaw from Apple. Any other OS does it correctly, by making the focus (on scrollbar) as infinity to the right if in full-screen mode.
So that when the user "hit" the most right edge of the screen, he automatically is "on" the scrollbar. But this does not work for the OS from Apple, but it does on Windows and Linux (not that they should be the same, but this should be fixed, well known usability design flaw).
To 4: Command + Shift + ~ is unreachable for non-US keyboards like Swiss German keyboard layout (~ = hit: alt + n + Space... or any other like a where you want the tilde on top)... but I found a solution by changing the key combination to cmd + "§" (the key above the TAB key.) - So this is "working" now as expected.
To 5: You cannot copy and past in the same folder with Finder, no, instead you have to go and select one folder "up" in hierarchy... which is a stupid thing. Nobody expect this. Again, a design flaw.
To X: Fast Key - down does not work after renaming a file in Finder, see
See here: This is a BIG design flaw. I contacted Apple about this, answer: It's by design... NO it's NOT! This worked perfectly up to about Lion... but no, they changed the logic below... BTW: it works with Folders, but not with files... this is clearly a "nice funny animation feature" someone within Apple programmed on top of the underlaying source code basic functionality just to "be cool" -- with BAD side-effects !
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Sep 6, 2016 8:30 AM in response to flag2by dialabrain,LOL So you've gone from 50+ bugs to zillions. It's very hard to take you seriously. I could make a screen recording copying and pasting to the same folder, which btw, I have never done before until today and it works fine. But it seems it would do no good.
As Csound1 said, Good luck.
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Sep 6, 2016 8:43 AM in response to dialabrainby flag2,So, just show my how you copy and past something (a Folder!) WITHIN the same folder... I'm listing.
(It's about the principles, not the 50+ zillions... by just using the OS it shows up many design flaws and bugs. Some features, animations, what they built on top of a good code base with destructive side effects.)
BTW: These are all decisions from Apple HQ - we cannot change that, unfortunately. If there last answer is "it's by design" nobody can have something against it... right? Then everything is OK. Status quo. By design. But is it useful? Is it practical? Does it work (with many files, and a huge and small screen)? Does it also work for different use-cases not just a simple one-file-renaming thing? No, they (including other big companies) do not test anymore.
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Sep 6, 2016 10:38 AM in response to flag2by Luis Sequeira1,You speak of bugs but really there are things that you either dislike or don't know how to do.
Scroll bars too thin? That is a matter of opinion. I think 90%+ of users do not click them at all, they just use two fingers on the trackpad to scroll. I haven't used a scroll bar in years.
Can't copy and paste in the same folder in Finder? Sure you can, even though you insist you can't.
Here is how: Select, press Command-C, press Command-V. That is all.
Bye.