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Q: iPhone 7 v iPhone 7+?

So the real deciding factor before I pre-order an iPhone 7/7 plus tomorrow is the camera.

I do a lot of YouTube videos and I'm hoping to eventually replace my DLSR camera with my phone.

 

I understand that the iPhone 7 Plus has a telephonic lens... Will this make much of a difference for video? I'm not planning to zoom in, I simply want a good quality video.

One thing I hated about the 6S was the wide aperture, I like a bit of depth of field in my videos, will the new camera on the 7 plus allow me to do that?

 

Thanks all,

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Posted on Sep 8, 2016 11:46 AM

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Q: iPhone 7 v iPhone 7+?

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  • by Carolyn Samit,Solvedanswer

    Carolyn Samit Carolyn Samit Sep 8, 2016 11:49 AM in response to DWStorm
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    Sep 8, 2016 11:49 AM in response to DWStorm
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    javaliga javaliga Sep 8, 2016 11:52 AM in response to DWStorm
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    javaliga javaliga Sep 8, 2016 11:53 AM in response to Carolyn Samit
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    Sep 8, 2016 11:53 AM in response to Carolyn Samit

    Great minds think alike, huh?

  • by Carolyn Samit,

    Carolyn Samit Carolyn Samit Sep 8, 2016 12:02 PM in response to javaliga
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    Sep 8, 2016 12:02 PM in response to javaliga

    Hi,

     

    Not easy fielding questions about an unreleased product we don't have any hands on experience with 

  • by elcpu,

    elcpu elcpu Sep 8, 2016 12:09 PM in response to DWStorm
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    Sep 8, 2016 12:09 PM in response to DWStorm

    DWStorm wrote:

     

    1)  ...I'm hoping to eventually replace my DLSR camera with my phone.

     

    2)  ...One thing I hated about the 6S was the wide aperture, I like a bit of depth of field in my videos, will the new camera on the 7 plus allow me to do that?

     

    1) Well, if you are no too picky only... No phone comes close to a DSLR. I just bought a Canon EOS M3 (mirrorless, not a DSLR) and I will be buying the 7 tomorrow. The 7 or 7+ may be much better but no match to my Canon.

     

    2) All iPhones use a fixed f stop. The 7 and 7+ will be worse from your perspective as they will up the f stop to 1.8, great for low light and bokeh but not great for DOF. The 7+ will not allow you to change the f stop, it will adjust exposure by ISO and shutter speed.

  • by DWStorm,

    DWStorm DWStorm Sep 8, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Carolyn Samit
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    Sep 8, 2016 12:09 PM in response to Carolyn Samit

    It was more if there was something I was missing. Perhaps other phones have dual cameras and are able to do depth of field, then I'd know 70% whether it was something that the iPhone 7+ could do.

  • by ShagCA,

    ShagCA ShagCA Sep 8, 2016 12:14 PM in response to DWStorm
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    Sep 8, 2016 12:14 PM in response to DWStorm

    DWStorm wrote:

     

    So the real deciding factor before I pre-order an iPhone 7/7 plus tomorrow is the camera.

    I do a lot of YouTube videos and I'm hoping to eventually replace my DLSR camera with my phone.

    That depends on what you do with a DSLR camera (ie. still photos or video) and what you expect out of the camera. From what I have seen the 7 Plus cameras can not produce images comparable to those produced by DSLRs.

     

    DWStorm wrote:

     

    I understand that the iPhone 7 Plus has a telephonic lens... Will this make much of a difference for video? I'm not planning to zoom in, I simply want a good quality video.

    One thing I hated about the 6S was the wide aperture, I like a bit of depth of field in my videos, will the new camera on the 7 plus allow me to do that?

    Wide aperture? or wide angle? Wide aperture gives you thinner depth. If you want deeper (everything in focus) depth, you're not going to like 7 Plus camera because it's f/1.8 at 28mm and f/2.8 at 56mm. So if you're shooting wide angle (28mm), you get thinner depth.

     

    Depth of field on the iPhone seems to be software driven, much like post processing with Photoshop software to mask out the background and blur it out. I may be wrong on that. I would highly suggest testing the video at nearby Apple store when it is available before pre-ordering it.

  • by ShagCA,

    ShagCA ShagCA Sep 8, 2016 12:18 PM in response to elcpu
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    Sep 8, 2016 12:18 PM in response to elcpu

    elcpu wrote:

     

     

    1) Well, if you are no too picky only... No phone comes close to a DSLR. I just bought a Canon EOS M3 (mirrorless, not a DSLR) and I will be buying the 7 tomorrow. The 7 or 7+ may be much better but no match to my Canon.

     

    2) All iPhones use a fixed f stop. The 7 and 7+ will be worse from your perspective as they will up the f stop to 1.8, great for low light and bokeh but not great for DOF. The 7+ will not allow you to change the f stop, it will adjust exposure by ISO and shutter speed.

     

    1. I agree. No smartphone cameras can replace DSLR or mirrorless cameras but they are improving every year.

     

    2. Not only the 7+, I think all iPhones (or smartphones) have constant aperture.

  • by Lawrence Finch,

    Lawrence Finch Lawrence Finch Sep 8, 2016 12:25 PM in response to DWStorm
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    Sep 8, 2016 12:25 PM in response to DWStorm

    DWStorm wrote:

     

    So the real deciding factor before I pre-order an iPhone 7/7 plus tomorrow is the camera.

    I do a lot of YouTube videos and I'm hoping to eventually replace my DLSR camera with my phone.

     

    They aren't in the same discussion. No cellphone camera, not matter how sophisticated, can come within miles of a good DSLR. The most important difference is the size of the CCD sensor. The sensor in a good DSLR is about 1/4 the size of an iPhone. The sensor in the iPhone isn't much larger than the lens in the iPhone. There's a reason professional photographers will still spend $thousands on a DSLR and set of lenses.

     

    If your needs are very basic you can get by with a cellphone camera. And if you use it within its limitations you can take very good pictures. But to compare it with a quality DSLR (or even a good point-and-shoot) is a joke.

     

    However, there are places where an iPhone camera beats a DSLR. So far I've found one; taking a photo through a submarine periscope, where the camera lens must be smaller than the objective lens in the periscope:

    Athabaskan thru Growler periscope.jpg

  • by OmarBanasr,

    OmarBanasr OmarBanasr Sep 8, 2016 3:28 PM in response to DWStorm
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    Sep 8, 2016 3:28 PM in response to DWStorm

    will if camera and shooting videos is your main reason the defiantly go with plus for the screen size that'll help you and for the camera that'll do amazing stuff for your filming