Will Aperture 3.6 work in Mac OS Sierra?

Thanks for that. Deleting all custom metadata appears to have returned my Aperture to normal.

One addition...

You have to manually delete all custom metadata fields in your Metadata Presets (even if deleting custom metadata fields in the respective window will not delete those from the Metadata Presets). As you described, you are not able to do this in AP running Sierra due to the failure in opening the respective window.

My suggestion: duplicate your AP-library in El Capitan. Open duplicated AP-library in El Capitan. Proceed as described in my first post. In addition do also delete your (better all) Metadata Presets. Close AP-library. Copy it to your macOS Sierra volume. Open and run. I assume your bug will be fixed. You then have to create your Metadata Presets again manually.

DaveB wrote:

Thanks for that. Deleting all custom metadata appears to have returned my Aperture to normal.

I am happy, this works for you. Now we have some more months (years?) working with our beloved Aperture.

I'm getting a consistent crash on doing a "Burn".

1. Import 4MB jpg

2. "Burn (Darken)"

3. Crash as soon as I try to paint the burn.

I am using a late 2012 27" iMac, 3.2Ghz i5, 32GB memory, nVisia GeForce GTX 680MX 2018MB

I might have found an easier way (still checking and working on it):

• after upgrading to the latest release of MacOS Sierra I noticed, that the preview images of my AP-Lybrary went banana.
• I selected all images and did a forced refresh of the preview images (press alt while selecting the respective menu)

The process is still ongoing (around 20000 images to refresh the preview) but meanwhile it seems that the import settings do work again despite custom meta data/fields.

Keep fingers crossed that a simple force refresh of the preview images does the cure.

worked for a short period, but now everything is as before 😕

actually it worked. Had to close Aperture and reopen it. Now it's working like a charm.

Can do Batch Change with small new test library.

I need to work out what custom fields and presets I've created over the years. Definitely some cruft. If I have to do them over that's OK at this point.

I think the next step for me is to import a "El Cap" library into a new "Sierra" library.

PS I'm on Sierra 10.12.1

@neckargecko Seems to have worked. I deleted three custom fields, and import and Info panel display presets while in El Cap. Imported that "preset and custom free" library into new empty Library in Sierra. Batch Change now works. Import works. By works I mean no Continue/Crash dialog. I had previously deleted all the Import Presets: ~/Library/Application Support/Aperture/ per @léonie.

Can't be sure which step it was. In other words, maybe the Import Presets files didn't need to be deleted. I do think it is necessary to import into a new library. Directly opening the "preset and custom free" library in Sierra didn't work well. (I'll check this again on the library I'm working on now.)

Aperture seemed to hang after the import (or maybe it was very busy doing something), but a Force Quit and relaunch worked. The thumbnails are getting being generated. Don't know where they went, but maybe they don't get imported.

I hope I don't have to come back in a few days and report problems. I'm guessing most people aren't going to have problems because they wouldn't have set up Custom Fields.

I didn't do a Clean Install of Sierra.

Thank you all.

Léonie;

We have, in the past, corresponded, and I have found your responses useful and quite clear. I have been following this thread for some time and am now quite confused. I have NOT YET moved to Siera but want to. Can you please guide me knowing that:

I have a Master Aperture file (750GB) with over 250,000 RAW (referenced) pictures in it;

I have "worked" this file for some time making sure all shots are properly connected;

I have exported all major Projects into new Aperture Libraries;

I have converted all these Libraries into Capture One Catalogues (I have opted to use C1 as my main software but want to use Aperture as long as possible).

Siera supports Capture One.

Now, I want to make the change to Siera.

Do I understand correctly that once I have moved to Siera, I need to 1) open as many NEW Aperture Libraries as I have old ones and 2) import the old ones into these new ones for them to work properly in Siera ? Can I then delete the old ones

In any event, if this doesnt work, at least I'll have all my shots in Capture One Catalogues.

Is this the right strategy ?

Many thanks for your response,

Marc

Do I understand correctly that once I have moved to Siera, I need to 1) open as many NEW Aperture Libraries as I have old ones and 2) import the old ones into these new ones for them to work properly in Siera ? Can I then delete the old ones

Wait and see, if Aperture is working for you on macOS Sierra or not. As I said, for me Aperture is working in the current stable macOS Sierra version. I am still not sure, why Aperture is working for some of us and others not. It may depend on the architecture of the Mac in question.

Keep a full backup of your Mac as it is now before you upgrade and a clone of your Aperture library. You need a copy of your Aperture library that you can try to repair, if you should encounter issues with Aperture.

If Aperture is working for you as well, you can use your library and do not need to create new libraries by importing the old ones. But if you should encounter problems with features not working, test with a new Aperture library in your current account and in the guest account, if the problems only happen in your user account, or only for your main Aperture Library, or are system wide. This will help you to decide, if you need to create new Aperture libraries by importing the old ones, or if you may need to reinstall macOS Sierra by booting onto Recovery.

One problem with succession of incremental upgrades is, that some kernel extensions may not be updated, if you installed older software that added incompatible system additions. By booting into Recovery you will get a complete reinstall of Sierra, but you first need to install the upgrade to Sierra on top of your last System before you can reinstall the complete system this way (OS X: About OS X Recovery).

Thanks Leonie. I will continue to do some cleaning up in my old Aperture Master before moving to Siera (could take some weeks)...

In the meantime I love Capture One and only regret that it doesn't have Aperture's Map setup and link into iTunes !

I had issues with Aperture when using it with macOS Sierra. My comments are back on page 2 of this thread.

I would like to report, it's now working....

Now, I had to make a few changes has advised by others on this thread.

I removed my custom presets & I also removed metadata presets. While I was at it, I also removed my 'Managed Places' (more for me to tidy up!). I repaired permissions also.

Tentatively I updated my MacBook Air (11", 2014) to 10.12.

Once installed I checked Aperture for the 'F' Full screen, in & out, 'W' tabs, the loupe, my connections to SmugMug, Batch changing, Importing, Exporting, all good.

My MacBook Air only contains a few images.

But I was positive that Aperture is now working on Sierra.

I turned my attention to my Mac Pro (2010, 2.8GHz Quad-core, Apple RAID, SSD, ATI Radeon HD5870). I tidied up my Aperture libraries (the bulk of my work), similar to the MacBook Air.

Updated the Mac Pro to 10.12.1.

Checked Aperture, again all good.

🙂

I have followed this thread. And I appreciate the views / problem solving from fellow Aperture users. Leonie, simply deserves a medal.

It's only by this thread / discussion that I tried Aperture again on Sierra.

I must also point out, I listen to the views of ex-Aperture users who have moved to Capture One or Lightroom, I judge their opinions greatly. Who better to hear from with regards to different DAM software.

I like Capture One (use it in the studio), but is still missing a few bells & whistles, Lightroom, the Adobe business model bugs me.

I much prefer Aperture.

But hey, it seems I have Aperture working for another while...

🙂 I'm glad you got it working on Sierra!

You are correct; for the years that I have followed, Leonie is the best! Thank you.

I have installed and removed Lightroom from my Mac twice. I stinking hate it. Perhaps I am just a knot head. I have a very good friend who swears by LR; we can sit side by side and edit photos and Aperture is at least 30% faster (read EASIER) to accomplish the same task. Plus I can ALWAYS find my photos; most of the time she isn't sure where she put them after editing. I do use Photoshop Elements for the FEW things that Aperture can't do. I really do love Aperture. We can always hope, right?