jonelle from stavanger

Q: Stay on Page/Move with text/Pull out my hair

Dear Friends,

 

I have asked this question before and yet am still having terrible difficulties with my graphs flying around the text document when I add further text.  I am not able to find the archives with answers that people have written to me.

 

I need to write a series of lab reports and have used a terrible amount of time trying to put the images back into place. I am not getting a running flow of text.  Even within the sections I created, some of the images have floated back up to the top of the section and are sitting there tight.  I am not able to move them.

 

Here is an example of a problem:  I have inserted a scatter plot and written my figure text.  I click the tab "Move with Text."  The Text wrap tab spontaneously chooses "Inline with text."  My plot is moved to the left hand column - but I don't want it there.  I need to add a small annotation.  I am not able to merge the plot to the center as the "Inline with text" function does not allow this.

 

Basically, I try and change all the figures and plots to "Move with Text," but they tend to change back to "Stay on Page" when I look away.

 

I am now wondering if I shouldn't open a new document in Page Layout? This way I can add all my figures for the Results section in place holders.  But can I merge "Text Layout" with "Page Layout" sections?

 

I really don't want to go back to Microsoft Word!  I would love to become proficient with Pages - and of course learn my lab material!

 

Pages 5.6.2

OS X El Capitan

MacBook Air

 

Thanks for your attention.

Jonelle

 

 

 

Today I opened my document to

iPod touch, iOS 5.0.1

Posted on Sep 9, 2016 3:33 PM

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  • by VikingOSX,

    VikingOSX VikingOSX Sep 9, 2016 6:21 PM in response to jonelle from stavanger
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    Sep 9, 2016 6:21 PM in response to jonelle from stavanger

    Jonelle,

     

    Every object, with the exception of a table, when it is inserted into a Pages v5.6.2 document, has its object placement set to Move with Text, and its text wrap set to Automatic. To keep your images from richocheting around your document out of your control, or repelling one another, visit the Arrange tab with the image selected, and switch text wrap to None. Now, you can position images where you want them in your text body.

     

    Unlike Word, Pages v5.6.2 does not have a convenient annotation tool, and one must position, and group an oblong text box containing the annotation — beneath the image.

  • by jonelle from stavanger,

    jonelle from stavanger jonelle from stavanger Sep 10, 2016 3:21 AM in response to VikingOSX
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    Sep 10, 2016 3:21 AM in response to VikingOSX

    Dear VikingOSX,

     

    Thank you for your answer.  I was more comfortable working with Pages 09 but now I seem to struggle keeping my objects in order with my text.

     

    I went back to my document and removed the images from tables I had made.  Previously I thought that the tables would be better place holders.  Anyway, I removed my image and in a new document, created two text boxes to insert over the image to annotate what I was seeing.  I grouped the text boxes to keep them together.  When I copied this image with text boxes onto my report, everything looked fine and in order.  However when I selected Move with Text and No Text wrap, the image moved differently than the grouped text box.  I can't seem to get them to move together.

     

    I went back to my previous document and took a screen shot of the finished image with grouped text boxes.  I pasted the screen shot onto my document.  Fine, but the resolution was not nice.

     

    I don't understand why I am not able to merge a text box as a layer on top of my image.  Certainly this is a task that many people need to work with?

     

    Let me know if you have another work around.  Here is a copy of my screen shot so you can see what I am trying to do.

     

    Kind regards,

    Jonelle

     

    Screen Shot 2016-09-10 at 11.44.54.png

  • by VikingOSX,

    VikingOSX VikingOSX Sep 10, 2016 4:17 AM in response to jonelle from stavanger
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    Sep 10, 2016 4:17 AM in response to jonelle from stavanger

    Jonelle,

     

    As I mentioned, every object comes into Pages v5 documents with a default Move with Text object placement, and Text Wrap set to Automatic. Both your image, and the Text box must be set to Move with Text, and Text Wrap set to None.

     

    The last object inserted is in the foreground, so with the first paragraph settings changed, your Text box should now just slide right over your image as intended. Group them once you have the scale registered with the image.

     

    If Pages '09 makes you more productive, just use that. Engage the Wrap inspector, and Arrange menu to your advantage. I have Pages '09 v4.3 installed with El Capitan 10.11.6. Pages v5 will wear you down.

  • by jonelle from stavanger,Helpful

    jonelle from stavanger jonelle from stavanger Sep 10, 2016 8:59 AM in response to VikingOSX
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    Sep 10, 2016 8:59 AM in response to VikingOSX

    Thank you Viking OSX.  I think I have it now.  I just regret the waste of time. 

     

    One last question.  I have Pages 09 installed on an older MacBook Pro that is running really slow.  Will you advise me on how to transfer the app?  I have it on a backup disk, or should I try the Migration assistant?

     

    With best regards.

    Jonelle

  • by VikingOSX,Solvedanswer

    VikingOSX VikingOSX Sep 10, 2016 8:58 AM in response to jonelle from stavanger
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    Sep 10, 2016 8:58 AM in response to jonelle from stavanger

    Jonelle,

     

    Stay away from Migration Assistant.

     

    There were two ways to acquire Pages '09 when it was available from Apple:

    1. Retail iWork '09 DVD
    2. OS X App Store as an individual purchase.

     

    If you installed it on your older Mac from the DVD, then you will need to install it again from the DVD on your current Mac. Then update it with the Apple iWork 9.3 updater to get Pages '09 v4.3, the last update. You must reinstall, because unlike the App Store purchase, the DVD installs library dependencies into System locations. Never run the above updater on an App Store sourced version of Pages '09 — it will destroy it.

     

    If you installed Pages '09 from the OS X App Store, then it can simply be put on a USB stick, and transferred to the Applications/iWork '09 folder (you create this) location. Single-click on the Pages '09 application, and then press option+command+i to see its version information.

     

    If it is not v4.3, and the older Mac is running OS X 10.7.4 through OS X 10.8.5, then there is a possibility that the App Store may still update it to v4.3. You sign into the App Store with the same Apple ID that you purchased Pages '09, and then press the option key when clicking Purchases. This should provide you with a Download button for Pages. The download will dialog you with a warning that you will need a newer version of OS X (it thinks you want v5.6.2), but it may also just ask if you want to update Pages '09. If you get that far, agree and you will have Pages '09 v4.3. Apple may have discontinued this helpful update for Pages '09 to v4.3.

     

    Regardless of the type of Pages '09 installation, you will want its template folder, and your auto-correction symbol and text substitution mappings, along with the Pages preferences list file.

    1. Pages '09 Templates folder
      1. ~/Library/Application Support
        1. copy the iWork folder to the USB stick
        2. Drag/drop the iWork folder from the USB stick into the bolded location on your new Mac.
    2. Pages '09 Auto-Correction symbol and text substitution, and general preference list
      1. ~/Library/Preferences
        1. copy com.apple.iWork.Pages.plist to the USB stick
        2. Drag/drop this preference list into the same location on your new Mac.

     

    To get to the above bolded filesystem locations, just press shift+command+g in the Finder, and copy/paste the bold text into the dialog.

  • by jonelle from stavanger,

    jonelle from stavanger jonelle from stavanger Sep 10, 2016 8:58 AM in response to VikingOSX
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    Sep 10, 2016 8:58 AM in response to VikingOSX

    Thank you for your very through reply.  I found the Pages 09 app so will try the transfer via USB stick. Will let you know.

     

    Are you knowledgeable as well with Numbers?  I have the 3.6.2v that came with my new computer although I was also using the version bundled with my iWork 09 package.  Can I ask you any questions through the Numbers community page??

  • by VikingOSX,

    VikingOSX VikingOSX Sep 10, 2016 1:01 PM in response to jonelle from stavanger
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    Sep 10, 2016 1:01 PM in response to jonelle from stavanger

    Jonelle,

     

    Good luck with the Pages '09 movement to your new Mac.

     

    As for Numbers '09, or v3.6.2, there are others in the Numbers for Mac community that have more experience, and cogent answers, for either release. Spreadsheets have not been my career interest or forte.

  • by jonelle from stavanger,

    jonelle from stavanger jonelle from stavanger Sep 10, 2016 1:09 PM in response to VikingOSX
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    Sep 10, 2016 1:09 PM in response to VikingOSX

    Hmmmm, I bet you are just being modest: )

     

    Thank you again for your help.

     

    Jonelle

  • by PeterBreis0807,

    PeterBreis0807 PeterBreis0807 Sep 11, 2016 3:52 PM in response to jonelle from stavanger
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    Sep 11, 2016 3:52 PM in response to jonelle from stavanger

    Jonelle

     

    If your old MacBook Pro is running really slow it is probably just cluttered.

     

    Save and remove anything you have on your Desktop to somewhere else, and backup and remove at least 20% of the contents of your Hard Drive to an external Hard Drive or USB Flash Drives, and keep it at least 20% clear.

     

    OSX needs 20% space free on the Hard Drive to write temporary files, less than that and it starts to slow down. When there is very little space left on the drive it can get excruciatingly slow.

     

    Also install as much RAM in your Macbook Pro as it can take, that alone will speed up everything you do.

     

    Replace the internal Hard Drive with a SSD Solid State Drive for even greater speed improvements. The prices of larger SSDs has come right down, you can buy 500Gb SSDs now for quite good prices.

     

    You definitely should not be using Pages 5.6.2 for any serious work, especially work you mind losing.

     

    Inline figures and graphs will tend to move precisely because they are inline. They move with the text as if they are a large character in the text. Best you have them in their own paragraph and use a Paragraph Style to control their Line Spacing and Before and After Spacing.

     

    You do have to think about what the consequences are to formatting with larger objects. If they can't fit in the space left on a page they obviously will move to the next page where there is space.

     

    Peter