Pheidius1

Q: gtx 980 and no boot screen

I have a flashed GTX 980 ti running in a 2010 Mac Pro(on external power). It only shows a boot screen, however, if I attach a non 4k monitor to the DVI port. The Dell P2415Q 4 k monitors(except for one random time) do not show video until the boot is complete. This means I have to keep an old DVI monitor on all the time to not only get the boot screen but to even get any video output at all on boot completion. Without a DVI monitor the Dells do not show any video and go into sleep mode. Bootcamp running Windows 7 shows the same behavior. Any ideas?

MAC Pro 2010, OS X El Capitan (10.11.6), 12 core 3.43, 128 GB, GTx 980 TI

Posted on Sep 12, 2016 3:17 AM

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  • by John Lockwood,

    John Lockwood John Lockwood Sep 12, 2016 6:48 AM in response to Pheidius1
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    Sep 12, 2016 6:48 AM in response to Pheidius1

    How is the P2415Q normally connected? If you are trying HDMI then instead try Displayport.

     

    If your card has been flashed did you buy it from MacVidCards? If so ask them for assistance.

  • by DPArt,

    DPArt DPArt Sep 12, 2016 11:41 AM in response to Pheidius1
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    Sep 12, 2016 11:41 AM in response to Pheidius1

    COntact whoever flashed it.

     

    They owe you the fix.

  • by Pheidius1,

    Pheidius1 Pheidius1 Sep 12, 2016 2:02 PM in response to John Lockwood
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    Sep 12, 2016 2:02 PM in response to John Lockwood

    The Dells are both hooked up to the DP. I did buy the flash from Mac Vid cards but the flash is working correctly on lower resolution monitors. It is just DP only where they fail to show the bootscreen. This  would seem to be a hardware incompatibility. The Mac edition HD7950 has the same behavior. It only shows the DP input after the boot has fully completed. I was hoping for some kind of terminal command that would maybe adjust the boot output parameters.

  • by John Lockwood,Helpful

    John Lockwood John Lockwood Sep 12, 2016 6:49 PM in response to Pheidius1
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    Sep 12, 2016 6:49 PM in response to Pheidius1

    As you have paid MacVidCards a lot of money for a flashed version you should consult them.

     

    This implies it should work - http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/4k-monitors-that-show-mac-boot-screen.189148 3/#post-21444845

  • by Pheidius1,

    Pheidius1 Pheidius1 Sep 12, 2016 5:13 PM in response to John Lockwood
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    Sep 12, 2016 5:13 PM in response to John Lockwood

    Yes, I will certainly throw the question to Chris at Mac Vid cards. The fact that the Mac edition 7950 shows the same behavior is an indicator that this is a communication with the 4k monitor issue. I am leaning towards either a 60/30 hz issue or screen span issue. When I try to use the gui to force mirroring it does not persist past the reboot. This Dell does not have a menu screen other than port select so I can't tweak from that end. I am praying there is a Terminal solution. I will report back what Mac vid cards has to say.

  • by Pheidius1,

    Pheidius1 Pheidius1 Sep 12, 2016 6:57 PM in response to John Lockwood
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    Sep 12, 2016 6:57 PM in response to John Lockwood

    I have made more progress. I discovered that if I set the MST from its default "off" to "primary" then that forces a 30 mhz refresh rate(and mirroring) allowing the Dell 4k monitor to show the Apple boot on one screen. I can then select any one of my boot drives. When logged in, I go into mirror mode at 30 hz. I have to then go back into each Dell monitor to reset the MST to off  before full resolutions, 60 hz refresh rate, and spanning can be re-selected. This is the best work around so far. The best would still be a terminal command that runs the machine at 30 hz/and or mirrored at boot as that way I would only have to deal with System Preferences. I did see a thread out there last week that did have terminal commands that affected mirroring but now I can't find them.

  • by Pheidius1,

    Pheidius1 Pheidius1 Sep 12, 2016 8:39 PM in response to Pheidius1
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    Sep 12, 2016 8:39 PM in response to Pheidius1

    On second look, not so much progress as the menu button only shows up if you have signal so you can't boot up if you are running at 6O hz. if there is no signal on these Dells only the input controls will show up. So my only option to get rid of the DVI(or HDMI) monitor in the array would be to lose the sixty hz feature and only run them at 30. I still need a way to force OS X to be in mirror mode and/or at thirty hertz at boot startup.

  • by Christian Stueben,

    Christian Stueben Christian Stueben Sep 13, 2016 11:10 PM in response to Pheidius1
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    Sep 13, 2016 11:10 PM in response to Pheidius1

    I had similar problems with a video cable that has been too long, 5 meters. Sometimes, in rare cases (one or two times a week), the boot screens didnt show, or the monitor did black out suddenly.

     

    After buying a shorter video cable (1.5 meters) all problems have dissolved to hot air, never seen again. The combination mp 2010 / 980ti / video cable / iiyama pl4071uh works perfect now.

     

    greetings from germany

    Chris

  • by Pheidius1,

    Pheidius1 Pheidius1 Sep 14, 2016 2:14 PM in response to Christian Stueben
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    Sep 14, 2016 2:14 PM in response to Christian Stueben

    Thank you for your response. Would were it that simple for me. My cables are already only 1.5. My issue is clearly that the low level boot screen is only thirty Hertz but these monitors don't pick up thirty autonomously. They are preset for 60 nrz MST from their menu.  I need a terminal command to force the low level boot screen to output mirror mode.