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Q: How do I adjust the FONT SIZE on Safari 10?

I'm using OS X 10.11.6, and I just downloaded Safari 10.0. It seems to have replaced the "minimum font size" with a "zoom" function; but there's a big problem: If I make the font size as large as I prefer, the page runs off the screen; if I make the page zoom optimal, the font is too small! So I have to either squint at the text, or keep sliding back and forth to see the whole page. This is annoying and stupid. Isn't there a way to adjust the font size ALONE?

MacBook Air, OS X El Capitan (10.11.6)

Posted on Sep 20, 2016 11:12 AM

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Q: How do I adjust the FONT SIZE on Safari 10?

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  • by Harold Holbrook,

    Harold Holbrook Harold Holbrook Sep 21, 2016 6:24 AM in response to zerimar3
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    Sep 21, 2016 6:24 AM in response to zerimar3

    That doesn't enlarge the fonts on the Favorites Bar, for example. Not a solution.

  • by Egtverchi,

    Egtverchi Egtverchi Sep 21, 2016 6:39 AM in response to RedMolly250
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    Sep 21, 2016 6:39 AM in response to RedMolly250

    Safari 9 allowed me to increase the font size independently of page zoom, but Safari 10 removed that necessary function. My impression, not being particularly tech-oriented, is that different web pages use different display systems to set the relative proportions of text size, image size, and field size (e.g. a box in which certain text is displayed); and some of these systems interact in odd ways with different browsers. I'm not familiar with Firefox or Chrome, but you might check to see if there is a "font size" control hidden somewhere in those browsers; if there is, you should be able to increase the text (on most screens) to something more legible. The trade-off is that the text may end up too big for a particular field, in which case it will be truncated, or will wrap around, and may crowd out other text; but that's a choice which should be left to the user, rather than having the developers decide what's best for everyone else.

  • by Egtverchi,

    Egtverchi Egtverchi Sep 21, 2016 6:49 AM in response to Harold Holbrook
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    Sep 21, 2016 6:49 AM in response to Harold Holbrook

    Apple's System fonts have always been teeny, and I've learned to live with them; I don't think they shrunk appreciably with Safari 10. Safari 9, however, at least allowed users to adjust most other fonts, so web pages were easier to read.

  • by RedMolly250,

    RedMolly250 RedMolly250 Sep 21, 2016 6:52 AM in response to Egtverchi
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    Sep 21, 2016 6:52 AM in response to Egtverchi

    I used to be able to set the fonts to no smaller than. That setting is gone. I'm on Apple chat now with photos of the problem. I'll relay what they have to say

  • by RedMolly250,

    RedMolly250 RedMolly250 Sep 21, 2016 7:05 AM in response to Egtverchi
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    Sep 21, 2016 7:05 AM in response to Egtverchi

    This is what Apple Inc. Chat Support has to say: (which is basically of no help)

    "Ok, based on the information available, you have a few options. I hope they work for you. I’ve been told the main font size difference is Safari and you should be able to set the zoom at 115%. The other option is to change the display resolution, which may not give ideal results."

  • by RedMolly250,

    RedMolly250 RedMolly250 Sep 21, 2016 7:11 AM in response to RedMolly250
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    Sep 21, 2016 7:11 AM in response to RedMolly250

    The second reply from Apple Mac Chat was not helpful either. We can only hope that they get a fix!!!

    We can do a SMC and a Nvram reset. Both require a restart so we will have to end the chat.

  • by Egtverchi,

    Egtverchi Egtverchi Sep 21, 2016 7:23 AM in response to RedMolly250
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    Sep 21, 2016 7:23 AM in response to RedMolly250

    A shame they didn't bother to check out this thread - we've already tried and discarded their "fixes", and explained why their suggestions don't work. As you say - no help. (And I'm always apprehensive when Apple's own people say "I've been told", as if they are as clueless as we are!)

  • by Egtverchi,

    Egtverchi Egtverchi Sep 21, 2016 7:28 AM in response to RedMolly250
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    Sep 21, 2016 7:28 AM in response to RedMolly250

    "We can do a SMC and a Nvram reset. Both require a restart so we will have to end the chat."

     

    Translation: "Well, gotta run, bye!"

  • by RedMolly250,

    RedMolly250 RedMolly250 Sep 21, 2016 7:28 AM in response to Egtverchi
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    Sep 21, 2016 7:28 AM in response to Egtverchi

    I know. And I even gave them the link to this thread so they could take a look. My guess is there will be thousands of help tickets and since the update just came out they'll have to Get a Fix. For now I'm zooming up crazy just to see 12 and 14 pt type. Yep and I agree, they sounded clueless! Irritatingly so. Then the solution is to go into the firmware of the computer to mess with those settings because an update They just delivered has a problem. Nope! Not doing that. Wait and see... ... Thanks for posting the the question.

  • by RedMolly250,

    RedMolly250 RedMolly250 Sep 21, 2016 7:30 AM in response to Egtverchi
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    Sep 21, 2016 7:30 AM in response to Egtverchi

    Exactly!

  • by Harold Holbrook,

    Harold Holbrook Harold Holbrook Sep 21, 2016 7:33 AM in response to RedMolly250
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    Sep 21, 2016 7:33 AM in response to RedMolly250

    I'm a macOS developer, but don't dabble in Web stuff. So I posted in the Developer Forums "Safari" section, to see if there is a Safari hack.

  • by Egtverchi,

    Egtverchi Egtverchi Sep 21, 2016 7:41 AM in response to Harold Holbrook
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    Sep 21, 2016 7:41 AM in response to Harold Holbrook

    Appreciate it. Let us know if you find anything useful - especially something which can be easily implemented by non-techies like me.

  • by RedMolly250,

    RedMolly250 RedMolly250 Sep 21, 2016 8:01 AM in response to Harold Holbrook
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    Sep 21, 2016 8:01 AM in response to Harold Holbrook

    Thank you!

  • by heathphoto,

    heathphoto heathphoto Sep 21, 2016 8:22 AM in response to Egtverchi
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    Sep 21, 2016 8:22 AM in response to Egtverchi

    I hear you, I am so mad about this...  If all of us leave feedback maybe apple will bring it back.

  • by johnhs99,

    johnhs99 johnhs99 Sep 21, 2016 8:44 AM in response to Eric Root
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    Sep 21, 2016 8:44 AM in response to Eric Root

    Thanks for the link, Eric. Let's hope Apple gives a ****.

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