ramhariesh

Q: macOS Sierra is  a crappy and buggy OS

The worst OS that apple has ever made. MacBook Pro(Early 2015) model is not shutting down properly without a hard shutdown, after installing  macOS Sierra. It always shows a  window saying that There is some problem in my MacBook and should be shutdown. Where can I get OS X El Capitan? After installing macOS Sierra, my MacBook has become slower than before. Could you guys please fix the crappy and buggy OS that you have just released?

MacBook Pro, iOS 10, macOS Sierra is a crappy OS

Posted on Sep 20, 2016 9:37 PM

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  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Sep 21, 2016 12:57 AM in response to ramhariesh
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    Sep 21, 2016 12:57 AM in response to ramhariesh

    What mode MacBook Pro

    What OS version did you have before?

    Is El Capitan available in the Purchased section of your Mac App Store

    Do you have a TM backup you can restore from?

    Can you post the error message you received?

    Open the Console app in Finder>Applications>Utilities and look for log entries at the time of the problem.

    Have you tried:

    - Try resetting the SMC and NVRAM/PRAM

    Intel-based Macs: Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC)

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295

    About NVRAM and PRAM

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204063

    - Try starting in Safe Mode

    OS X: What is Safe Boot, Safe Mode?

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201262

    - Boot to Recovery and repair the startup disk

    OS X: About OS X Recovery - Apple Support

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201314

    - If it is repairable reinstall the OSX

    How to reinstall OS X on your Mac - Apple Support

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204904

    - If you do not have a backup use disk utility to restore the internal disk to an external disk so you can try to recover data.

    Then format the startup disk and do a fresh install of OSX

  • by jamespaski,

    jamespaski jamespaski Sep 24, 2016 8:06 AM in response to ramhariesh
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    Sep 24, 2016 8:06 AM in response to ramhariesh

    I've been having an issue as well regarding shut downs ever since I upgraded to macOS Sierra. Whenever I long press the power button on my Mac, the laptop automatically shuts down without giving me the usual options of Restart, Sleep, Log Out, or Shut Down. Then, when I turn my Mac again there will be a notification that the computer did not shut down properly and if I wish to open any applications activated before the shut down. This has occurred for about three (3) times already. This may be a bug in the new OS. Hoping that an update will remedy this problem.

     

    *Macbook Air 13-inch mid-2013 model running on macOS Sierra (10.12)

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Sep 24, 2016 9:31 AM in response to jamespaski
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    Sep 24, 2016 9:31 AM in response to jamespaski

    'Pressing and holding the power button' does an emergency, uncontrolled power-off. It should never be routinely, only when you have no other options. It has been known to sometimes produce some directory corruption, because the latest updates to the directory are not copied back to the drive.

    The correct way to do a Restart is to choose Restart off the  menu. You can also choose Shutdown, count to 10, then press the power button to start up again. Theses choices do an orderly, well-behaved cleanup and Shutdown, and are the only ones that should be used routinely.

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Sep 24, 2016 9:37 AM in response to ramhariesh
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    Sep 24, 2016 9:37 AM in response to ramhariesh

    The trade press have published opinions, mostly indicating that except for a few minor problems, the upgrade to Sierra has been remarkably trouble-free. They disagree that this release is "crappy and buggy".

     

    The problems that you are seeing are not typical. Some of them may be related to your unique configuration. If you could provide a bit more information, Readers would be happy to help you work through them, if that is what you wish.

  • by jamespaski,

    jamespaski jamespaski Sep 24, 2016 9:53 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Sep 24, 2016 9:53 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    The long press emergency, power-off is not what I'm mentioning. The image you'll see below is the window indicating the options said in the previous comment. I know for a fact that this window will also be allowing me to safely shut down or restart my computer. However, there have been instances that this window does not appear.

     

    I disagree that macOS Sierra is "crappy and buggy" also; it's a good upgrade by the way.

     

    Screen Shot 2016-09-25 at 12.41.35 AM.png

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Sep 24, 2016 10:52 AM in response to jamespaski
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    Sep 24, 2016 10:52 AM in response to jamespaski

    On a computer with an Eject key on the keyboard, that 'Restart-Sleep-Cancel-Shutdown' dialog box can be invoked with:

    Control-Eject_key.

     

    A well-controlled Restart can be invoked directly with:

    Command-Control-Eject_key

     

    a well-controlled Shutdown can be invoked directly with:

    Command-Control-Option-Eject_key

  • by jamespaski,

    jamespaski jamespaski Sep 24, 2016 11:12 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder
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    Sep 24, 2016 11:12 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

    I mentioned that I use a Macbook Air 13-inch mid-2013 model, and I know that Mac Airs do not have an Eject Key because these Macs do not have CD drives. The dialogue box does appear; however, what I'm stating is that there have been rare instances that that dialogue box does not appear. In order to bring up that dialogue box is to press the Power Key - a slightly longer press compared to when you want the computer to enter Sleep mode. But, instead of the dialogue box appearing, the computer directly shuts down, not allowing me to prompt if I want to Restart, Sleep or Shut Down the computer, or Cancel out the dialogue box. Again, it happened about three times and quite rare.

  • by Grant Bennet-Alder,

    Grant Bennet-Alder Grant Bennet-Alder Sep 24, 2016 11:33 AM in response to jamespaski
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    Sep 24, 2016 11:33 AM in response to jamespaski

    Mouse-tracking and keyboard responsiveness depend on having lots of spare processor cycles available. If your Mac is using up too much CPU doing unnecessary busy-work, this can keep those functions from being properly responsive.

     

    Especially after an Upgrade, you should take a look with Activity Monitor and see if there is something eating up more CPU cycles than it should be.

  • by ramhariesh,

    ramhariesh ramhariesh Sep 24, 2016 11:39 AM in response to ramhariesh
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    Sep 24, 2016 11:39 AM in response to ramhariesh

    Configuration: Macbook Pro with Retina Display(Early 2015 Model, 8GiB RAM) 13 INCH.

     

    Issues: Display Flickering when i log in, not a proper shut down, a dialog box that says there is some problem and i should shut down whenever i Log In, Very slow in loading the applications, Poor Performance

     

    I'm facing these issues every day since I installed macOS Sierra, not when it was running OS X El Capitan. OS developers should take in to account these issues, when they are releasing their software. macOS Sierra (10.12.1) update/patch should address these issues and resolve it asap. Just because you have a lot of added features, doesn't mean that it is a great product, until or unless it does it's usual work properly and seamlessly without causing any problem.

  • by jamespaski,

    jamespaski jamespaski Sep 24, 2016 11:55 AM in response to ramhariesh
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    Sep 24, 2016 11:55 AM in response to ramhariesh

    The loading screen also flickers while loading or booting up upon turning my Mac on. This just occured when I upgraded to macOS Sierra also. The same message appears, as you mentioned, after starting whenever a sudden shut down occurs (please see previous comments in the thread). It is, in my opinion, that this issue be raised in order for developers to make a solution. A flickering loading screen can be quite troubling.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Sep 24, 2016 12:20 PM in response to jamespaski
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    Sep 24, 2016 12:20 PM in response to jamespaski

    jamespaski wrote:

     

    I mentioned that I use a Macbook Air 13-inch mid-2013 model,

    Then you would probably have been better served by posting in the Macbook Pro forum instead of this one.

  • by jamespaski,

    jamespaski jamespaski Sep 24, 2016 12:29 PM in response to Csound1
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    Sep 24, 2016 12:29 PM in response to Csound1

    Ok. Apologies. So, this could also be applicable to the person who made the post as he/she stated that he/she uses a Macbook Pro?

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Sep 24, 2016 12:48 PM in response to ramhariesh
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    Sep 24, 2016 12:48 PM in response to ramhariesh

    You seem to be assuming Apple are reading your posts – that is never clear because this is a 'user forum'. Post your complaints to Apple if you hope for them to be fixed or better, send feedback via any crash reports that appear, enable diagnostics too in System Preferences > Security > Privacy.

    http://apple.com/feedback

     

    New OS's always have issues, some can be caused by older software. You can check what is installed via etrecheck…

    http://etresoft.com/etrecheck

     

    Post the report if you want feedback on it. You may want to verify that any older software is working for other users too, look at roaringapps.com for that.

     

    Occasionally old software causes conflicts that break when a new OS is released. You may want to hold of on the first update in future unless you have time to fix any issues that can appear.

  • by VickeVireG,

    VickeVireG VickeVireG Sep 24, 2016 12:36 PM in response to ramhariesh
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    Sep 24, 2016 12:36 PM in response to ramhariesh

    1. Well, Apple has made a lot of great OS, so your comparison might not mean very much.

     

    2. I have also had a small issue, but that the two of us has had issues is not basis enough to make claims about the OS in general. There will almost always be some issues for at least some users when an OS is in its infancy, and even though it has been on beta testing for a while, it is still very fresh. If you feel the way you seem to, perhaps you should have waited a few days before upgrading, or at least taken a back up so that you can go back if problems are encountered.

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