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Q: Extremely slow iMac

A few months ago I bought a new iMac.  It has 16GB of RAM, a 1TB Fusion Drive, is a 21.5" Retina model, and has a 3.1GHz Intel Core i5.  It has Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200 15.36MB.

 

The issue is it runs VERY slow.  At first I thought it was my imagination.  It's a secondary Mac.  My primary computer is a MacBook Pro with a Core i7, 16GB, and 1TB SSD Drive. I thought a Core i5 and Fusion Drive are maybe just much slower than a Core i7 and SSD Drive.

 

A couple months ago though I used a friend's 7 year old MacBook Pro with 8GB and a standard drive and much slower processor to realize that it was faster than my iMac and this was with multiple windows open.  For example I have opened Safari on the iMac with nothing else open and tried to simply watch a video on a news site and it kept stuttering and beachballing. 

 

I was going to do something about it at the time but I knew Sierra was coming out in the near future. I thought maybe something was just quirky in the system and a update to a new OS may fix it so I put up with it being slow since it was a second computer but no such luck.  It's as slow as ever.

 

Does anyone know what could be causing this?  Since it's always been like this I wonder if it's some type of hardware problem with maybe the Fusion drive or possibly the memory or even CPU.  If necessary I'm glad to make an appointment and go into the Genius Bar and it would be under warranty.  Yet if it's something simple I can diagnose and fix with time at home I would rather do that.  Is there any type of speed test or diagnostics I should do on it?  I have some background apps running but it's not as many as I have on my MacBook Pro.  I just wondered if something is using up resources and causing the speed to be slow.  Yet boot up also takes a long time so it's not just while it's running.

 

Thanks for any advice or ideas.

Posted on Sep 21, 2016 12:41 PM

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  • by stevejobsfan0123,

    stevejobsfan0123 stevejobsfan0123 Sep 21, 2016 12:43 PM in response to markwco10
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    Sep 21, 2016 12:43 PM in response to markwco10

    Post an EtreCheck report to help determine the cause - http://etresoft.com/etrecheck.

  • by markwco10,

    markwco10 markwco10 Sep 21, 2016 1:33 PM in response to stevejobsfan0123
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    Sep 21, 2016 1:33 PM in response to stevejobsfan0123

    I just want it with selection the slow computer option and received the following:

     

    EtreCheck version: 3.0.4 (308)

    Report generated 2016-09-21 13:57:35

    Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 1:34

    Performance: Excellent

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: Computer is too slow

     

    Hardware Information: ⓘ

        iMac (Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, Late 2015)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        iMac - model: iMac16,2

        1 3.1 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 4-core

        16 GB RAM Not upgradeable

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                8 GB DDR3 1867 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                8 GB DDR3 1867 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac

     

    Video Information: ⓘ

        Intel Iris Pro Graphics 6200

            iMac 4096 x 2304

     

    System Software: ⓘ

        macOS Sierra  10.12 (16A323) - Time since boot: less than an hour

     

    Disk Information: ⓘ

        APPLE HDD ST1000LM024 disk1 : (1 TB) (Rotational)

            EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Recovery HD (disk1s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk2) / : 1.02 TB (214.88 GB free)

                Core Storage: disk0s2 23.55 GB Online

                Core Storage: disk1s2 999.35 GB Online

     

        APPLE SSD AP0032H disk0 : (24 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 315 MB

            Boot OS X (disk0s3) <not mounted> : 134 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk2) / : 1.02 TB (214.88 GB free)

                Core Storage: disk0s2 23.55 GB Online

                Core Storage: disk1s2 999.35 GB Online

     

    USB Information: ⓘ

        VIA Labs, Inc.          USB3.0 Hub

            VIA Labs, Inc.          USB3.0 Hub

        Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

        VIA Labs, Inc.          USB2.0 Hub

            Apple, Inc. Keyboard Hub

                Apple Inc. Apple Keyboard

            VIA Labs, Inc.          USB2.0 Hub

                Logitech Trackball

                Fitbit Inc. Fitbit Base Station

                Sunplus Innovation Technology  USB to Serial-ATA bridge

     

    Firewire Information: ⓘ

        OWC Elite Pro U3FW 800mbit - 800mbit max

            EFI (disk4s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Data Drive (disk4s2) /Volumes/Data Drive : 4.00 TB (3.44 TB free)

        OWC Mercury Elite Pro Quad USB 3 800mbit - 800mbit max

            EFI (disk3s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            TM iMac (disk3s2) /Volumes/TM iMac : 2.00 TB (205.44 GB free)

     

    Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ

        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

            Apple Inc. Thunderbolt to FireWire Adapter

     

    Configuration files: ⓘ

        /etc/sudoers, File size 2299 but expected 1563

        /etc/hosts - Count: 138

     

    Gatekeeper: ⓘ

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Unknown Files: ⓘ

        ~/Library/Safari/Extensions/webfilter.safariextz

        One unknown file found. [Check files]

     

    Kernel Extensions: ⓘ

            /Applications/Internet/Transmit.app

        [not loaded]    com.panic.TransmitDisk.transmitdiskfs (3.0.0 - SDK 10.5 - 2011-11-22) [Support]

     

            /Applications/Utilities/DiskWarrior.app

        [not loaded]    com.alsoft.Preview (5.0 - SDK 10.5 - 2014-12-12) [Support]

     

            /Applications/VMware Fusion.app

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmci (8.5.0 - 2016-09-13) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmioplug.15.2.0 (8.5.0 - 2016-09-13) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmnet (8.5.0 - 2016-09-13) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.vmware.kext.vmx86 (8.5.0 - 2016-09-13) [Support]

     

            /Applications/Webroot SecureAnywhere.app

        [loaded]    com.webroot.driver.WebrootSecureAnywhere (9.0.3 - SDK 10.9 - 2016-09-20) [Support]

     

            /System/Library/Extensions

        [not loaded]    com.Belcarra.iokit.USBLAN_netpart (3.1.1 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-09-20) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.Belcarra.iokit.USBLAN_usbpart (3.1.1 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-09-20) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.RemoteControl.USBLAN.usbpart (3.1.1 - SDK 10.7 - 2016-09-20) [Support]

     

    /System/Library/Extensions/2.2.0/Belcarra.USBLAN_netpart.kext/Contents/Plug-Ins

        [not loaded]    com.belcarra.iokit.netpart.panther (1.6.3 - 2012-06-19) [Support]

     

    /System/Library/Extensions/2.2.0/Belcarra.USBLAN_usbpart.kext/Contents/Plug-Ins

        [not loaded]    com.belcarra.iokit.usbpart.panther (1.6.3 - 2012-06-19) [Support]

     

    /System/Library/Extensions/2.2.0/RemoteControl.USBLAN_usbpart.kext/Contents/Plug -Ins

        [not loaded]    com.RemoteControl.USBLAN.panther (1.6.2 - 2012-06-19) [Support]

     

            ~/Library/Services/ToastIt.service/Contents/MacOS

        [not loaded]    com.roxio.TDIXController (2.0 - 2015-02-13) [Support]

     

    System Launch Agents: ⓘ

        [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    168 Apple tasks

        [running]    96 Apple tasks

     

    System Launch Daemons: ⓘ

        [not loaded]    com.apple.jetsamproperties.Mac.plist (2016-08-25) [Support]

        [not loaded]    37 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    161 Apple tasks

        [running]    105 Apple tasks

     

    Launch Agents: ⓘ

        [not loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (2016-07-15) [Support]

        [failed]    com.adobe.AdobeCreativeCloud.plist (2015-09-24) [Support]

        [running]    com.amazon.sendtokindle.launcher.plist (2014-10-28) [Support]

        [running]    com.brother.LOGINserver.plist (2015-03-12) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.agent.plist (2016-07-12) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (2015-02-13) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.webroot.WRMacApp.plist (2015-03-25) [Support]

        [running]    com.webroot.WRMacBackNSync.plist (2014-10-23) [Support]

        [running]    org.chromium.chromoting.plist (2016-06-20) [Support]

     

    Launch Daemons: ⓘ

        [loaded]    com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist (2015-02-20) [Support]

        [running]    com.adobe.adobeupdatedaemon.plist (2015-11-27) [Support]

        [running]    com.adobe.agsservice.plist (2016-08-12) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (2016-08-29) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.ea.origin.ESHelper.plist (2016-04-25) [Support]

        [running]    com.fitbit.galileod.plist (2015-10-30) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.github.GitHub.GHInstallCLI.plist (2015-02-21) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (2016-09-01) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.autoupdate.helpertool.plist (2016-08-03) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist (2010-08-25) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (2015-08-15) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist (2015-02-13) [Support]

        [running]    com.webroot.security.mac.plist (2016-09-20) [Support]

        [running]    com.webroot.webfilter.mac.plist (2016-08-10) [Support]

     

    User Launch Agents: ⓘ

        [loaded]    com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (2015-02-20) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.adobe.ARM.[...].plist (2015-12-26) [Support]

        [running]    com.amazon.music.plist (2015-12-27) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.bittorrent.uTorrent.plist (2015-03-23)

        [loaded]    com.citrixonline.GoToMeeting.G2MUpdate.plist (2015-12-27) [Support]

        [running]    com.spotify.webhelper.plist (2016-09-21) [Support]

        [loaded]    com.valvesoftware.steamclean.plist (2016-04-25) [Support]

     

    User Login Items: ⓘ

        Google Drive    Application Hidden (/Applications/Cloud/Google Drive.app)

        TextExpander    Application Hidden (/Applications/TextExpander.app)

        Plex Media Server    Application Hidden (/Applications/Digital Life/Plex Media Server.app)

        Music Manager    Application Hidden (~/Library/PreferencePanes/MusicManager.prefPane/Contents/Helpers/MusicManagerH elper.app)

        Fitbit Connect Menubar Helper    Application (/Applications/Fitbit Connect.app/Contents/MacOS/Fitbit Connect Menubar Helper.app)

        Dropbox    Application Hidden (/Applications/Cloud/Dropbox.app)

        DiskWarriorDaemonStarter    Application (/Applications/Utilities/DiskWarrior.app/Contents/Helpers/DiskWarriorStarter.ap p)

        Inklet    Application Hidden (/Applications/Inklet.app)

     

    Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ

        AdobeAAMDetect: AdobeAAMDetect 1.0.0.0 - SDK 10.6 (2016-07-15) [Support]

        FlashPlayer-10.6: 23.0.0.162 - SDK 10.9 (2016-09-13) [Support]

        QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-09-13)

        AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 11.0.17 - SDK 10.6 (2016-07-15) [Support]

        AdobePDFViewer: 11.0.17 - SDK 10.6 (2016-07-15) [Support]

        Flash Player: 23.0.0.162 - SDK 10.9 (2016-09-13) [Support]

        npDDRia: 0.0.14.3 - SDK 10.9 (2015-02-05) [Support]

        SharePointBrowserPlugin: 14.5.5 - SDK 10.6 (2015-09-10) [Support]

        OnLiveGameClientDetector: OnLiveGameClientDetector 1.0.0 (2014-12-16) [Support]

        Silverlight: 5.1.30514.0 - SDK 10.6 (2015-03-23) [Support]

        JavaAppletPlugin: Java 8 Update 91 build 14 (2016-05-18) Check version

     

    User internet Plug-ins: ⓘ

        CitrixOnlineWebDeploymentPlugin: 1.0.105 (2013-04-25) [Support]

        Picasa: 1.0 - SDK 10.6 (2015-02-13) [Support]

        Google Earth Web Plug-in: 7.1 (2013-10-07) [Support]

     

    Safari Extensions: ⓘ

        Pin It Button - Pinterest, Inc. - http://www.pinterest.com/ (2016-09-20)

        Translate - SideTree.com - Apps for Mac and Web - http://SideTree.com/extensions.html#Translate (2016-02-02)

        webfilter (2016-08-10)

        Adguard AdBlocker - adguard - http://adguard.com (2016-09-15)

        Evernote Web Clipper - Evernote Corp. - http://evernote.com (2015-08-23)

        feedly - The feedly team - http://www.feedly.com (2015-03-25)

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ

        remoting_host_prefpane (2016-07-12) [Support]

        Flash Player (2016-08-29) [Support]

        Java (2016-05-18) [Support]

        MusicManager (2015-11-17) [Support]

     

    Time Machine: ⓘ

        Skip System Files: NO

        Auto backup: YES

        Volumes being backed up:

            Macintosh HD: Disk size: 1.02 TB Disk used: 807.11 GB

        Destinations:

            TM iMac [Local]

            Total size: 2.00 TB

            Total number of backups: 83

            Oldest backup: 12/12/15, 3:32 AM

            Last backup: 9/21/16, 1:21 PM

            Size of backup disk: Too small

                Backup size 2.00 TB < (Disk used 807.11 GB X 3)

     

    Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ

             4%    WindowServer

             2%    iTunes

             2%    kernel_task

             2%    fontd

             1%    Google Chrome Helper(15)

     

    Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ

        1.58 GB    Google Chrome Helper(15)

        1.14 GB    kernel_task

        721 MB    iTunes

        590 MB    Spotify

        492 MB    MTLCompilerService(15)

     

    Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ

        1.01 GB    Free RAM

        15.00 GB    Used RAM (6.12 GB Cached)

        0 B    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information: ⓘ

        Sep 21, 2016, 01:04:59 PM    Self test - passed

        Sep 21, 2016, 05:44:38 AM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/media-indexer_2016-09-21-054438_[redacted].cpu_ resource.diag [Details]

    /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/AssistantServices.framework/Versions/A/XPCServ ices/media-indexer.xpc/Contents/MacOS/media-indexer

        Sep 20, 2016, 09:29:17 PM /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/WSDaemon_2016-09-20-212917_[redacted].cpu_resou rce.diag [Details]

            /usr/local/bin/WSDaemon

  • by rkaufmann87,

    rkaufmann87 rkaufmann87 Sep 21, 2016 1:39 PM in response to markwco10
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    Photos for Mac
    Sep 21, 2016 1:39 PM in response to markwco10

    May I ask why you have a bittorrent.uTorrent installed on your computer?

  • by stevejobsfan0123,

    stevejobsfan0123 stevejobsfan0123 Sep 21, 2016 1:41 PM in response to markwco10
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    Sep 21, 2016 1:41 PM in response to markwco10

    Try uninstalling Webroot and see if the problem persists. In general, you don't need such software on a Mac and they usually degrade performance.

  • by Allan Eckert,

    Allan Eckert Allan Eckert Sep 21, 2016 1:44 PM in response to markwco10
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    Sep 21, 2016 1:44 PM in response to markwco10

    I would also suggest that you uninstall your Torrent software to find out if it is culprit causing the performance problems.

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Sep 21, 2016 2:16 PM in response to markwco10
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    Sep 21, 2016 2:16 PM in response to markwco10
    • That Mac's Hosts file appears to have been modified.
    • Uninstall "Webroot" by following its instructions, but consider the following comments.

     

    I suggest you read this recent post: Re: Will this work?

     

    Does "Webroot" interfere with "TextExpander"? I don't know, but while "TextExpander" may be useful, "Webroot" is useless garbage. Unfortunately it may prove difficult to eradicate, a notorious problem with ill-conceived or poorly written software.

     

    When I installed "Webroot" for testing purposes some months ago, I followed their developer's instructions to quit the app and drag it to the Trash. Doing so proved ineffective in removing all its system-altering components. Since its uninstallation instructions failed, I completely erased the volume on which it was installed. The user posting the Discussion I referenced earlier also decided to pursue that route. That's what I recommend. Let me know if you need help doing that.


  • by markwco10,

    markwco10 markwco10 Sep 21, 2016 7:09 PM in response to John Galt
    Level 1 (4 points)
    Desktops
    Sep 21, 2016 7:09 PM in response to John Galt

    Thanks for all the replies. I have removed both Webroot and BitTorrent.  I have an app called AppDelete that is supposed to remove all traces of an app.  I hope that took care of all of Webroot.  I will say at this point the computer seems to run faster.  I will use it a little more to try to figure out if it's up to speed where it should be. I realize it won't be as fast as my laptop since that's an i7.  All of these suggestions definitely helped.

  • by Allan Eckert,

    Allan Eckert Allan Eckert Sep 21, 2016 8:04 PM in response to markwco10
    Level 9 (53,640 points)
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    Sep 21, 2016 8:04 PM in response to markwco10

    In the testing I have done on AppDelete, I found it to be dangerous in what it removed from the system. It usually ended up breaking other applications and/or the system on the Mac I was using to test it. Hence the reason I recommend strongly that it not be used.