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Q: Fade tool will not work

Hi,

I am trying to use the fade tool to do a fade out on a track. I have it selected and drag it over the end of the track but it just creates a highlighted box and then disappears- same as if you just click and drag on the desktop of a mac and it creates that translucent box but on top of the track. Am I doing something wrong?

MacBook Pro with Retina display

Posted on Sep 25, 2016 6:11 PM

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  • by Indyuser,

    Indyuser Indyuser Sep 25, 2016 6:47 PM in response to mammaltide
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    Sep 25, 2016 6:47 PM in response to mammaltide

    Is it a midi or audio region?

    also - make sure all advanced tools are enabled under preferences

  • by mammaltide,

    mammaltide mammaltide Sep 25, 2016 8:17 PM in response to Indyuser
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    Sep 25, 2016 8:17 PM in response to Indyuser

    I think it would be considered a midi... Its a guitar going through an interface into one of logic's preset amps. I realized that it does work on the straight audio regions.

  • by Indyuser,

    Indyuser Indyuser Sep 26, 2016 2:10 AM in response to mammaltide
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    Sep 26, 2016 2:10 AM in response to mammaltide

    Yep - fades cannot be applied to midi regions, Only to audio regions

  • by mammaltide,

    mammaltide mammaltide Sep 26, 2016 12:10 PM in response to Indyuser
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    Sep 26, 2016 12:10 PM in response to Indyuser

    Is there a way to get a fade effect on midi regions?

  • by Edgar,Solvedanswer

    Edgar Edgar Sep 26, 2016 12:48 PM in response to mammaltide
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    Sep 26, 2016 12:48 PM in response to mammaltide

    Think about it, it doesn't make sense (with one exception).

     

    Assume you have a piece of written score, the instruction for playing music (MIDI Regions). If a violinist plays that score, you hear an audio signal, and when you record that audio signal, you end up with an Audio Region. You can fade out that Audio Region, but fading out the MIDI Region is like fading out the written score, that makes no sense.

    The equivalent to a fade out would be to actually change the instruction, write a decrescendo into the score so the violinist performs the fade out. That means, on the MIDI Region you would change the velocity data of the MIDI Notes,

    Velocity fade out.png

     

    or send MIDI Volume (CC#7) to the Software Instrument that "performs" the MIDI data. This Volume information is still MIDI data and not audio data

    CC7.png

     

    When you talk about Fade Tool I assume that you talk about applying Fades (in, out, crossfade) to the actual Audio Region, which is not possible for MIDI Region (the fade tool will not appear). However you can achieve , as another alternative, the same result with automation (Volume Automation), and that you can apply to Audio Tracks and Software Instrument Tracks.

     

    BTW, if you have recorded your guitar as an audio signal to an Audio Region, then that is not a MIDI Region even if you used Logic's Preset Amps.

     

    Hope that helps

     

    Edgar Rothermich - LogicProGEM.com

    (Author of the "Graphically Enhanced Manuals")

    http://DingDingMusic.com/Manuals/

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