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Q: Does Sierra retain iPhoto?

Im looking to update my 2012 Macbook Pro from Yosemite to Sierra, but I need to be reassured that my iPhoto will be retained as I'm not a fan of Photos.

 

Can anyone confirm whether Sierra retains or deletes iPhoto please?

 

Thanks

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Posted on Sep 26, 2016 6:59 AM

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  • by RoyalFlushAK(s),

    RoyalFlushAK(s) RoyalFlushAK(s) Oct 1, 2016 7:59 PM in response to MacBookBear
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    Oct 1, 2016 7:59 PM in response to MacBookBear

    My IPhoto 11.13.07 works with Sierra. I got my iPhoto from coozon(dot)com

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 1, 2016 8:09 PM in response to RoyalFlushAK(s)
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    Oct 1, 2016 8:09 PM in response to RoyalFlushAK(s)

    If you are talking about Apples iPhoto the last release was 9.6.1, so I have no idea who made yours.

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Oct 2, 2016 4:39 AM in response to MacBookBear
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    Oct 2, 2016 4:39 AM in response to MacBookBear

    If I do move to Photos will my photo library be doubled in size due to it being in both iPhoto and Photos?

    It does not duplicate the files. It creates a Hard Link to the original storage location on the drive. A Hard Link is indistinguishable from the actual file and is in essence, the same file.

    When hard links are created, the file system keeps track of them so that it doesn't delete the file data until all hard links have been deleted. So, even if you deleted it from your iPhoto Library, the file would still exist in your Photos Library.

  • by m620,

    m620 m620 Oct 2, 2016 2:55 PM in response to MacBookBear
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    Oct 2, 2016 2:55 PM in response to MacBookBear

    Hi MacBookBear

    Did you update to Sierra?

    If so, are you still able to use iPhoto?

    I'm currently running it... a bit slow... but fine on El Capitan

    I have read contradicting comments online about it working with Sierra.

    I plan to export all my pictures out of iPhoto (should have already) to another software package. I'm now wondering if i should do this before i update to Sierra.

     

    many thanks

    paul

  • by MacBookBear,

    MacBookBear MacBookBear Oct 2, 2016 4:12 PM in response to m620
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    Oct 2, 2016 4:12 PM in response to m620

    I haven't updated yet Paul, but I hope to do so soon. I'll post back here when I do.

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Oct 2, 2016 4:41 PM in response to MacBookBear
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    Oct 2, 2016 4:41 PM in response to MacBookBear

    When you update to Sierra, the following will happen with iPhoto:

     

    • Your existing iPhoto app will be retained.
    • Your existing iPhoto Library will be retained and will remain unaltered.
    • The iPhoto icon in the Dock will be replaced with the new Photos icon.
      • That is annoying, but it does not mean iPhoto is gone. You just have to drag its icon from Applications to the Dock.
    • iPhoto will remain in your App Store's Purchased list, assuming you really actually purchased it in the past.
      • If you didn't, you're out of luck, so now would be a good time to see if it's there.
    • When you first use the new Photos app, it will copy your existing iPhoto Library and convert it for Photos
      • That will take a long time during which your Mac will get busy and warm.
      • While your Mac is busy and warm with that task you can use it, but it will be slower than usual and some background tasks will slow down or be delayed (Time Machine's automatic backups, for example).
      • Expect that long time to take about 1 hour per 1000 photographs, so if it's a portable Mac and you have thousands of photos it would be a good idea to leave it connected to power.
      • Your existing iPhoto Library will be retained and will remain unaltered (I said that already, but I know you don't believe me).

     

    Finally, if you are concerned about upgrading to Sierra consider reading the following: Upgrading to macOS "Sierra" without fear.

  • by MacBookBear,

    MacBookBear MacBookBear Oct 2, 2016 4:45 PM in response to John Galt
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    Oct 2, 2016 4:45 PM in response to John Galt

    Thats reassuring to know John, thanks.

     

    Is creating a new Photos library optional? Can I decline this?

     

    Thanks.

  • by John Galt,

    John Galt John Galt Oct 2, 2016 5:31 PM in response to MacBookBear
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    Oct 2, 2016 5:31 PM in response to MacBookBear

    I don't recall if it specifically asks you for your old library or not, but if it does you certainly don't have to use it. You can create a brand new, empty one. Or, just don't use Photos at all.

  • by ronaldfromdresden,

    ronaldfromdresden ronaldfromdresden Oct 7, 2016 1:02 PM in response to MacBookBear
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    Oct 7, 2016 1:02 PM in response to MacBookBear

    Hello -

     

    I have running iPhoto 9.6.1 under Sierra and I didn't discover any issues.

    I just made the mistake to move to Photos Unfortunately, it is not obvious which functions are dropped when new versions released.

  • by MacBookBear,

    MacBookBear MacBookBear Oct 7, 2016 1:37 PM in response to ronaldfromdresden
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    Oct 7, 2016 1:37 PM in response to ronaldfromdresden

    Well i have successfully upgraded from Yosemite to Sierra and my iPhoto library has been retained and is unaffected. I didn't get any prompts at all to move to Photos, infact there was no mention of Photos during the upgrade/installation process. So I'm a happy boy

  • by Luis Sequeira1,

    Luis Sequeira1 Luis Sequeira1 Oct 7, 2016 2:04 PM in response to MacBookBear
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    Oct 7, 2016 2:04 PM in response to MacBookBear

    You might as well try Photos out. It is quite good, and has new features in Sierra.

    iPhoto still works, but will never be updated again, and can break at any moment.

    You can import the iPhoto library to Photos, which does not use much space. You can keep using iPhoto and from time to time take Photos for a spin.

     

    You may end up realizing there is no reason to hate Photos except maybe a personal prejudice.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 7, 2016 2:06 PM in response to MacBookBear
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    Oct 7, 2016 2:06 PM in response to MacBookBear

    iPhoto will only work for an unspecified time, it will stop without warning. Better to be ready for that day.

  • by MacBookBear,

    MacBookBear MacBookBear Oct 7, 2016 2:23 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Oct 7, 2016 2:23 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    Yes it might be a good idea to migrate my iPhoto library into Photos, as long as it doesn't take up too much extra space.

     

    When opening Photos I get the message..

     

    Photos cannot find the System Photo Library..... You can open another library and set it as the System Photo library in Preferences

     

    Followed by...

     

    Choose a photo library from the list, or create a new library

     

    It then lists my iPhoto library as the only option to choose. I assume I should choose this and let it continue? Will this retain my iPhoto library so I can carry on using it, whilst copying it over to Photos for future use?

  • by KRDHarris,

    KRDHarris KRDHarris Oct 7, 2016 2:28 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1
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    Oct 7, 2016 2:28 PM in response to Luis Sequeira1

    I agree with you Luis, except for one point; Photos has terrible integration with Flickr compared to iPhoto. This is the only reason I have gone back to iPhoto, after giving Photos a try.

     

    I used to use the excellent Apple Mobile Me Galleries, but then Apple withdrew them, claiming they did not want to be in the photo-hosting business, and steered me to Flickr. I reluctantly migrated to Flickr, which was bit like moving to Windows; complicated, duplicated functions, etc., but over time Flicker improved and I gradually came to like it. iPhoto has fairly good ways to post photos to Flickr, so all was well.

     

    I was quite excited at the advent of Photos, but really disappointed at the terrible Flickr integration; for example, photo titles and descriptions are not uploaded or synchronized, and there seems to be a limit of about 20 photos per upload.

     

    To rub salt in the wound, Apple now seems to be encouraging us to use iCloud Photo Library; remember Apple said they were not in the photo-hosting business?

     

    Since Apple seems uninterested in bringing Flickr integration in Photos up to the level of iPhoto, (or is deliberately keeping it worse), I see no good solution, but will continue using iPhoto to the bitter end.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Oct 7, 2016 2:30 PM in response to KRDHarris
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    Oct 7, 2016 2:30 PM in response to KRDHarris

    Since Apple seems uninterested in bringing Flickr integration in Photos up to the level of iPhoto, (or is deliberately keeping it worse), I see no good solution, but will continue using iPhoto to the bitter end.

    And then?

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