DiGrifter

Q: Sierra: Changed Finder File Selection Behavior

After upgrading to Sierra I cannot select files in Finder using the keyboard like before. When trying to select multiple files using Shift and the Arrow keys, it simply doesn't work properly (if you've experienced it, you know what I mean).

 

I have already tried removing the com.apple.finder.plist file in my Library/Preferences folder and rebooting, to no avail.

 

(An example of the problem can be found on this Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/54caqk/sierra_changed_finder_file_selectio n_behavior_me/ )

 

Message was edited by: DiGrifter

MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2012), macOS Sierra (10.12), null

Posted on Oct 6, 2016 3:44 PM

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  • by trevoz,Solvedanswer

    trevoz trevoz Oct 6, 2016 6:11 PM in response to DiGrifter
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    Oct 6, 2016 6:11 PM in response to DiGrifter

    Yep same behaviour here with Sierra.

     

    Best thing to do it send feedback via http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html Apparently if 100 users report the same issue, it'll get attention. So, 1 down, 99 to go

  • by DiGrifter,

    DiGrifter DiGrifter Oct 6, 2016 6:11 PM in response to trevoz
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    Oct 6, 2016 6:11 PM in response to trevoz

    Thanks, I just reported it. Hopefully it gets fixed soon!

  • by trevoz,

    trevoz trevoz Oct 6, 2016 9:01 PM in response to DiGrifter
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    Oct 6, 2016 9:01 PM in response to DiGrifter

    Two down, just 98 to go ...

  • by already_here,

    already_here already_here Oct 6, 2016 9:37 PM in response to trevoz
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    Oct 6, 2016 9:37 PM in response to trevoz

    Shift+arrow multi-selection works just fine with Sierra here, i'm sure the problem is caused by some incompatible/not-updated-for-Sierra third-party app conflict, not Apple OS.

  • by DiGrifter,

    DiGrifter DiGrifter Oct 6, 2016 9:56 PM in response to already_here
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    Oct 6, 2016 9:56 PM in response to already_here

    I've disabled all my third party applications, and the problem still persists.

  • by trevoz,

    trevoz trevoz Oct 6, 2016 9:57 PM in response to already_here
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    Oct 6, 2016 9:57 PM in response to already_here

    It works if you use list view, but not in icon view.

  • by already_here,

    already_here already_here Oct 7, 2016 3:00 AM in response to trevoz
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    Oct 7, 2016 3:00 AM in response to trevoz

    It works in icon view as well for me.

    Can you run etrecheck and post results?

  • by trevoz,

    trevoz trevoz Oct 7, 2016 3:17 AM in response to already_here
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    Oct 7, 2016 3:17 AM in response to already_here

    I have nothing other than Xcode and Parallels installed -- I do Windows, macOS, Solaris and FreeBSD software development but as you asked:

     

    EtreCheck version: 3.0.6 (315)

    Report generated 2016-10-07 21:10:51

    Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

    Runtime 1:44

    Performance: Excellent

     

    Click the [Support] links for help with non-Apple products.

    Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.

     

    Problem: No problem - just checking

     

    Hardware Information: ⓘ

        Mac mini (Late 2012)

        [Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

        Mac mini - model: Macmini6,2

        1 2.3 GHz Intel Core i7 CPU: 4-core

        16 GB RAM Upgradeable - [Instructions]

            BANK 0/DIMM0

                8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

            BANK 1/DIMM0

                8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

        Bluetooth: Good - Handoff/Airdrop2 supported

        Wireless:  en1: 802.11 a/b/g/n

     

    Video Information: ⓘ

        Intel HD Graphics 4000

            G2420HDBL 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz

     

    System Software: ⓘ

        macOS Sierra  10.12 (16A323) - Time since boot: about one day

     

     

    Disk Information: ⓘ

        APPLE HDD HTS541010A9E662 disk1 : (1 TB) (Rotational)

            EFI (disk1s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Macintosh HD (disk1s2) /Volumes/Macintosh HD : 999.35 GB (654.02 GB free)

     

        SAMSUNG SSD 830 Series disk0 : (256.06 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: No)

            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted> : 210 MB

            Macintosh SSD (disk0s2) /  [Startup]: 255.20 GB (138.03 GB free)

            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>  [Recovery]: 650 MB

     

    USB Information: ⓘ

        Apple, Inc. IR Receiver

        Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

        GenesysLogic USB3.0 Hub

        Seagate Expansion Desk

        GenesysLogic USB2.0 Hub

        No brand KVM

     

    Thunderbolt Information: ⓘ

        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

     

    Configuration files: ⓘ

        /etc/sudoers, File size 1275 but expected 1563

     

    Gatekeeper: ⓘ

        Mac App Store and identified developers

     

    Kernel Extensions: ⓘ

            /Applications/Parallels Desktop.app

        [not loaded]    com.parallels.kext.hypervisor (11.2.1 32626 - SDK 10.9 - 2016-07-27) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.parallels.kext.netbridge (11.2.1 32626 - SDK 10.9 - 2016-07-27) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.parallels.kext.usbconnect (11.2.1 32626 - SDK 10.9 - 2016-07-27) [Support]

        [not loaded]    com.parallels.kext.vnic (11.2.1 32626 - SDK 10.9 - 2016-07-27) [Support]

     

            /Library/Extensions

        [not loaded]    com.FTDI.driver.FTDIUSBSerialDriver (2.3 - SDK 10.9 - 2016-09-24) [Support]

     

            /System/Library/Extensions

        [not loaded]    com.prolific.driver.PL2303 (2.2.0 - 2016-10-01) [Support]

        [not loaded]    jp.co.panasonic.driver.rp_sdb (1.00 - 2016-10-01) [Support]

        [not loaded]    wch.usb.usb (1.1.1 - SDK 10.6 - 2016-10-01) [Support]

     

    System Launch Agents: ⓘ

        [not loaded]    7 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    170 Apple tasks

        [running]    94 Apple tasks

     

    System Launch Daemons: ⓘ

        [not loaded]    38 Apple tasks

        [loaded]    166 Apple tasks

        [running]    99 Apple tasks

     

    Launch Agents: ⓘ

        [loaded]    org.macosforge.xquartz.startx.plist (2016-05-05) [Support]

     

    Launch Daemons: ⓘ

        [loaded]    com.apple.aelwriter.plist (2013-10-29)

        [loaded]    com.noatime.root.plist (2016-09-04)

        [loaded]    org.macosforge.xquartz.privileged_startx.plist (2016-05-05) [Support]

     

    User Login Items: ⓘ

        iTunesHelper    Application  (/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

     

    Internet Plug-ins: ⓘ

        QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (2016-09-14)

     

    Safari Extensions: ⓘ

        AdBlock - BetaFish, Inc. - https://getadblock.com (2016-10-02)

        Ghostery - GHOSTERY, Inc. - https://www.ghostery.com/ (2016-09-25)

     

    3rd Party Preference Panes: ⓘ

        None

     

    Time Machine: ⓘ

        Skip System Files: NO

        Mobile backups: OFF

        Auto backup: YES

        Volumes being backed up:

            Macintosh SSD: Disk size: 255.20 GB Disk used: 117.17 GB

        Destinations:

            TimeMachine [Local]

            Total size: 5.00 TB

            Total number of backups: 57

            Oldest backup: 18/12/15, 18:46

            Last backup: 7/10/16, 20:03

            Size of backup disk: Excellent

                Backup size 5.00 TB > (Disk size 255.20 GB X 3)

     

    Top Processes by CPU: ⓘ

             3%    WindowServer

             3%    fontd

             1%    kernel_task

             1%    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(3)

             1%    sysmond

     

    Top Processes by Memory: ⓘ

        1.38 GB    softwareupdated

        1.38 GB    Safari

        1.18 GB    kernel_task

        606 MB    com.apple.WebKit.WebContent(3)

        246 MB    mds_stores

     

    Virtual Memory Information: ⓘ

        6.55 GB    Free RAM

        9.45 GB    Used RAM (3.82 GB Cached)

        0 B    Swap Used

     

    Diagnostics Information: ⓘ

        Oct 6, 2016, 10:12:43 AM    Self test - passed

  • by already_here,

    already_here already_here Oct 7, 2016 4:53 AM in response to trevoz
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    Mac OS X
    Oct 7, 2016 4:53 AM in response to trevoz

    Does it happen also if you create and log into a guest account and try to select files there?

    Does it happen in Safe Mode?

    (to make sure Parallels isn't the one causing interferences)

  • by trevoz,

    trevoz trevoz Oct 7, 2016 4:51 AM in response to already_here
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    Mac OS X
    Oct 7, 2016 4:51 AM in response to already_here

    Yes x2

  • by already_here,

    already_here already_here Oct 7, 2016 4:56 AM in response to trevoz
    Level 1 (18 points)
    Mac OS X
    Oct 7, 2016 4:56 AM in response to trevoz

    weird indeed, your system seems to be almost vanilla.

    I have a lot more stuff on my mac (including Parallels) and have no such problem with shift+arrows selections

  • by dialabrain,

    dialabrain dialabrain Oct 7, 2016 5:26 AM in response to trevoz
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    Mac App Store
    Oct 7, 2016 5:26 AM in response to trevoz

    trevoz wrote:

     

    It works if you use list view, but not in icon view.

    FWIW, for me it works in List and Column view, but only partially works in icon view as described in the posted link.

  • by already_here,

    already_here already_here Oct 7, 2016 7:03 AM in response to dialabrain
    Level 1 (18 points)
    Mac OS X
    Oct 7, 2016 7:03 AM in response to dialabrain

    sorry, you're all absolutely right, the selection with shift + arrows is screwed up in icon view for me too.

    you can only go one step to the left, then stop, and you can only go to the right and when pressing "up" it selects the file relative to the first one selected, not where your last selection is.

    Definitely a bug.

  • by DAVESE13,

    DAVESE13 DAVESE13 Oct 9, 2016 8:09 AM in response to already_here
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    Oct 9, 2016 8:09 AM in response to already_here

    Exactly the same happening with me, was beginning to think it was just me. Lets hope it gets noticed and fixed as slowing down my work no end having to select each file one by one.

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