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Q: Sierra installer problem to USB HD

Hi,

 

I downloaded a copy of the Sierra installer from the App store and pointed it at a freshly formatted 2.5 inch HDD in a USB caddy.  I have tried two or times each using a Macbook air and an iMac running Yosemite and get more or less the same result, namely failure.

 

The first time it just left an installation failure log folder on the target.

 

In my most recent attempt when I restarted the iMac while holding down the option key, the external HD offered me the choice of a sierra installer and a sierra internet recovery disk.

 

I chose the internet recovery and only got as far as a message saying that apple would verify my computer's eligibility.  Hitting continue just com me back to the same question.

 

I would be grateful for any suggestions.  Thanks,

Posted on Oct 21, 2016 11:00 AM

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  • by oxcart,

    oxcart oxcart Oct 21, 2016 2:09 PM in response to oxcart
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    Oct 21, 2016 2:09 PM in response to oxcart

    I now have Sierra installed on the external usb HDD and I have one further question and a problem.

     

    Question:  When I start up with the option held down the computer offers me startup options from the internal HD.  I do a 'hard' shut down and start up again with option held and I get the startup options from the internal and the external HDDs.  Why?

     

    The problem:  Sierra on the external drive can start my MBP but not the Air, which is the one I want to wipe and do a fresh install.  Any suggestions please.

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Oct 21, 2016 2:16 PM in response to oxcart
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    Oct 21, 2016 2:16 PM in response to oxcart

    What specific model Macs?

    You also said "sierra internet recovery disk."

    Was that the exact wording? I ask since Internet Recovery is in the EFI firmware and if you install macOS from the option preented it install the macOS versin that came with the Mac.

  • by oxcart,

    oxcart oxcart Oct 22, 2016 1:50 AM in response to lllaass
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    Oct 22, 2016 1:50 AM in response to lllaass

    Thanks for your response and I'm sorry for the complexity of the problem.  It's a 13" mid 2012 MacBook Air.  The user account has been migrated through countless machines possibly as far buck as 10.0 or 9.2 if that is possible.  I am getting occasional App crashes, even with simple stuff like Acrobat Reader.  I therefore wanted to start the computer up from an external disk, wipe the internal HD and make a fresh OS intallation.

     

    If you don't mind I would like to work forward from the current position.  At the moment I have Sierra installed on an HDD in an external USB caddy.  It can start my MBP8,2 but when connected to the AirBook the startup hangs after a minute or two and the display shows a circular symbol with a diagonal line across ('road block'). 

     

    I tried to start up in diagnostic and hardware test mode but it hung after connecting to the wifi.  If I do a normal restart the Macbook Air starts up fine.

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Oct 22, 2016 3:29 AM in response to oxcart
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    Oct 22, 2016 3:29 AM in response to oxcart

    Try downloading the Sierra installer from the Purchased section of the Mac App Store.

    Then make a bootable USB media using

    http://liondiskmaker.com/

    Yo need a USB media with 8 GB or more.

    Boot from that and try installing macOS on the internal disk after erasing the internal disk

  • by oxcart,

    oxcart oxcart Oct 22, 2016 10:51 AM in response to lllaass
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    Oct 22, 2016 10:51 AM in response to lllaass

    Thanks for the suggestion lllaass.  My main concern with your approach is that there is a hardware problem and that I might hang half way through an installation and then my wife won't have a working computer next week.  The MBA won't boot off the external HDD Sierra:  I suppose it won't hurt to try booting off a bootable installer.  I'll try it and let you know how it turns out.

     

    If it was my MBP I would clone the disc and swap out the HDD if there was a disaster, but with these fancy thin-edged boxes its a different matter.  IMHO lack of versatility is a high price to pay for aesthetics, but that's just me moaning.  

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Oct 22, 2016 10:57 AM in response to oxcart
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    Oct 22, 2016 10:57 AM in response to oxcart

    This place has videos for how to replace HD and other things.

    See if you are up to exchanging drives in the Mac.

     

    Also, try another USB dock or enclose. Maybe a problem with the caddy you have.

  • by oxcart,

    oxcart oxcart Oct 22, 2016 12:51 PM in response to lllaass
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    Oct 22, 2016 12:51 PM in response to lllaass

    Thanks, Diskmaker is a nice little app that saves a bit of typing on the terminal.  Unfortunately, I did not get far before I received this message

     

    "The disk could not be created because of an error: An error occured: -10006. Finder got an error: Can’t set disk "Install OS X Yosemite" to "DMX_Workdisk"."

     

    I had already tried it with the sierra installer and got the same message.  I am working on the Airbook.  I think the USB caddy is working fine because I have used it to move stuff between three computers and it all works fine.  It is something about this Airbook that won't let it create a bootable USB or be booted from an external USB.

     

    BTW, its not the tear down that bothers me, it's the fact that the SSD is not a standard 2.5 inch, which are cheep and lying round the place ready to grab.

     

    Next approach it to make the bootable install disk on my iMac and then point it at the Airbook.  I'm off for dinner and will let you know later.

  • by lllaass,

    lllaass lllaass Oct 22, 2016 1:00 PM in response to oxcart
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    Oct 22, 2016 1:00 PM in response to oxcart

    Run Apple Hardware Test/Diagnostics on the Air

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201257