Will APFS cause dual boot problems?

thanks for posting ...

i assume you have the typical GPT Partition table with a Hybrid MBR and intact EFI/Recovery partitions ?

cool, thanks soldonmac ....

might i ask why you have 2 seperate volumes (disk0 and disk1) ? so that you can use yosemite ?

when I do a gdisk /dev/disk0 in terminal it gives me an error 1.

i must be issuing the wrong path .... otherwise I cannot see or make changes to the hybrid MBR

So just to confirm, there are no issues with upgrading to High Sierra if running BootCamp on the boot disk (disk0)?
The disk will be divided in 2 partitions, one APFS and one NTFS?

The lack of updates for Bootcamp drivers doesn’t indicate anything. Apple has never released updated drivers for a new OS in a time frame of anything less than six months. Patience, grasshoppa!

six months is a long time to wait for some software support, like a patch.

anyway, let's see what comes early next year when apple puts some newer model macbooks out ....

been about 2 months so far ....

i think ill inform apple via the feedback method, to remind them that ppl are looking for this functionality to be restored (boot camp drivers in windows) ....

just reviving this topic, since High Sierra will roll out APFS which I assume will be bootable.

I've got a dual-boot configuration as well (win10/macOS 10.12.5).

in addition to the standard mac partitions, i have NTFS (windows 10) and one exfat for accessing common storage between both platforms.

i am wondering how this will roll out smoothly, because my computer has a hybrid MBR on a GPT disk. not sure whether the MBR will be able to support or recognize the APFS after upgrading to High Sierra.

so it might be necessary for me to plan a reinstall of windows 10 if upgrading to High Sierra is not compatible with hybrid MBR's.

i suppose then that when the public beta is available, i can find that out ....

it's interesting to see if it's possible to perform the APFS upgrade on a computer that's got HFS+, NTFS and exFAT while using a Hybrid MBR.

my concern is whether or not a Hybrid MBR will be able to address the APFS partition. if it cannot, then I'm not sure that the boot flag can be set when you're loaded into Windows and want to reboot into macOS.

if that's indeed the case, then the windows installation would need to be wiped out and reinstalled using another method that would not rely on an MBR.

thanks for the suggestions. i figured the keyboard shortcuts would be the only way if the flag cannot be set within windows.

i believe what i'm interested in learning more about is how to migrate my existing windows 10 installation to a GPT only configuration, and do away with the hybrid MBR all together .... some community members here are very well versed with partitioning and GPT, perhaps one of them might see this and comment so i can learn more ....

another benefit to getting rid of the MBR would be the 4-partition limitation that can be addressed within the windows environment.

Windows does not support a full-blown GPT setup as used by Macs, similarly Macs do not support a full-blown MBR setup as used by Windows. This is why the Boot Camp Assistant creates a hybrid MBR setup inside a GPT setup.

Do not on pain of losing all your data try messing with the partitioning setup created by Apple's Boot Camp Assistant. Do not try using various Windows tools to try editing it.

The best options are to use a second drive for additional volumes for either Windows or Mac or both e.g. using exFAT, or it is also possible on some Macs that have two or more internal drives to use one for Mac and one dedicated to Windows. The Windows one will still be using the same hybrid MBR setup but can then omit the Mac boot partition.

thanks for the advice.

i have some decent background experience with partition management since i began using computers in the early 90's, so i tread carefully when messing with GPT and MBR table adjustments. i've done it a couple of times using fdisk for this mbp which i currently use.

i've also got multiple copies of app data backed up, as well as full disk images and partition snapshots. i'm not all too afraid to mess with that aspect, so long as i know there's another computer nearby that i can use to access the internet and get info on fixing a botched GPT or MBR change before going the route of full restore from backups.

it's understood those options you suggest are probably the safest routes, however the more i can do on the internal SSD, the better. i never did like that the mbp i own has only 2 USB ports, so i don't look forward to unplugging full partitions/installations in order to use the ports for something else.

as far as this topic of dual-boot, i think developers are just now getting wet with it, so over time i guess i'll find out.

At the current release of APFS, it does not support booting, Time Machine backups, File Vault or Fusion Drives.

At the present time drives for Windows to access APFS formatted disk drive are not being provided.

Seeing as how APFS is still in beta testing, I would seriously recommend against using it at this time.

At the present time upgrading to Sierra allows the use of APFS to be totally optional. I am running Sierra and all of my disk drive are still formatted as HFS+.

No. My guess is that since support for Windows 7 is being dropped, I doubt if you will see a driver for it.