Too many "required" system fonts in Sierra

Apple has been going on a font bloat binge the last few operating systems. El Capitan left me with 159 required fonts (as reported by Suitcase Fusion, physical font files in /System/Fonts is less). Now Sierra has upped the ante to 285 required fonts (per SF, 102 physical font files in /System/Fonts, that's after my removing 87 additional font files Apple installed with Sierra).


As someone who makes a living with fonts, having this many fonts always on with no control over them is causing more and more font conflicts. It's making it difficult to open Illustrator and InDesign documents without getting conflict warnings after just a few additional fonts are opened. I have absolutely no fonts in the /user/Library/Fonts folder or the /Library/Fonts folder. This is purely the fonts required in /System/Library/Fonts.


Why the OS needs this many fonts is beyond me. Probably due to someone's idea of aesthetics. I'd love to hear of a way to drastically cut the number of required fonts, or hear that Apple understands this is a problem and reverses course in future OS versions. At the very least, all the Braille and Asian fonts are unnecessary for my needs. Any relief out there?

Mac mini, macOS Sierra (10.12.1)

Posted on Nov 15, 2016 6:51 AM

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Nov 15, 2016 10:04 AM in response to IPC_Graphics

There are tons of fonts installed by the Mac OS that do not need to be there for everyone. A large number of the fonts (particularly in the root /Library/Fonts/ folder) are there for foreign language support.


Font Management in macOS and OS X explains which fonts can be safely removed from the System and root Library folders. Be sure to read section one through rather closely. Mostly paying attention that you can read the recommended minimum list for the System folder regarding Sierra, and then scroll past the rest of the previous versions of OS X to where the /Library/Fonts/ folder is discussed. The latter is kind of a mess to read through because Apple keeps bouncing some fonts around. One version of the OS they're in the System folder, and the next the same required font is in the Library folder.


Or, just duplicate my lists (which are the same result as following the article). Courier, Times, Symbol and Zapf Dingbats are more on the optional side for prepress users. Particularly if they interfere with activating Type 1 PostScript or OpenType PostScript versions. Though a good font manager (like Suitcase Fusion) will automatically turn them off when a third party version is activated. You can do also do that manually by placing the conflicting fonts in the user account Fonts folder. Though my personal preference is to never intentionally create font conflicts.


/System/Library/Fonts/ folder:


Apple Color Emoji.ttc

Avenir.ttc

Courier.dfont

Geneva.dfont

Helvetica.dfont

HelveticaNeue.dfont

HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc

Keyboard.ttf

LastResort.ttf

LucidaGrande.ttc

Menlo.ttc

Monaco.dfont

PingFang.ttc

SFCompactDisplay-Black.otf

SFCompactDisplay-Bold.otf

SFCompactDisplay-Heavy.otf

SFCompactDisplay-Light.otf

SFCompactDisplay-Medium.otf

SFCompactDisplay-Regular.otf

SFCompactDisplay-Semibold.otf

SFCompactDisplay-Thin.otf

SFCompactDisplay-Ultralight.otf

SFCompactRounded-Black.otf

SFCompactRounded-Bold.otf

SFCompactRounded-Heavy.otf

SFCompactRounded-Light.otf

SFCompactRounded-Medium.otf

SFCompactRounded-Regular.otf

SFCompactRounded-Semibold.otf

SFCompactRounded-Thin.otf

SFCompactRounded-Ultralight.otf

SFCompactText-Bold.otf

SFCompactText-BoldItalic.otf

SFCompactText-Heavy.otf

SFCompactText-HeavyItalic.otf

SFCompactText-Light.otf

SFCompactText-LightItalic.otf

SFCompactText-Medium.otf

SFCompactText-MediumItalic.otf

SFCompactText-Regular.otf

SFCompactText-RegularItalic.otf

SFCompactText-Semibold.otf

SFCompactText-SemiboldItalic.otf

SFNSDisplay.ttf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Black.otf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Bold.otf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Heavy.otf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Light.otf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Medium.otf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Regular.otf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Semibold.otf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Thin.otf

SFNSDisplayCondensed-Ultralight.otf

SFNSText.ttf

SFNSTextCondensed-Bold.otf

SFNSTextCondensed-Heavy.otf

SFNSTextCondensed-Light.otf

SFNSTextCondensed-Medium.otf

SFNSTextCondensed-Regular.otf

SFNSTextCondensed-Semibold.otf

SFNSTextItalic.ttf

Symbol.ttf

Times.dfont

ZapfDingbats.ttf (optional)


/Library/Fonts/ folder:


AppleGothic.ttf

Arial Black.ttf

Arial Bold Italic.ttf

Arial Bold.ttf

Arial Italic.ttf

Arial Narrow Bold Italic.ttf

Arial Narrow Bold.ttf

Arial Narrow Italic.ttf

Arial Narrow.ttf

Arial Rounded Bold.ttf

Arial.ttf

Comic Sans MS Bold.ttf

Comic Sans MS.ttf

Georgia Bold Italic.ttf

Georgia Bold.ttf

Georgia Italic.ttf

Georgia.ttf

Impact.ttf

Tahoma Bold.ttf

Tahoma.ttf

Times New Roman Bold Italic.ttf

Times New Roman Bold.ttf

Times New Roman Italic.ttf

Times New Roman.ttf

Trebuchet MS Bold Italic.ttf

Trebuchet MS Bold.ttf

Trebuchet MS Italic.ttf

Trebuchet MS.ttf

Verdana Bold Italic.ttf

Verdana Bold.ttf

Verdana Italic.ttf

Verdana.ttf

Webdings.ttf

Wingdings 2.ttf

Wingdings 3.ttf

Wingdings.ttf


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Nov 15, 2016 8:18 AM in response to Kurt Lang

Excellent advice, thanks, but Sierra is still resisting. I'm the only admin on this machine and attempts to change permissions on Font Book result in a message that I don't have the necessary permission. User uploaded file

I have similar problems with manually deleting fonts such as Apple Braille. User uploaded file

Repairing permissions is no longer part of Disk Utility. I do have Disk Warrior 5 and Tech Tool Pro 8 and can run either of those unless you have other recommendations.

Nov 15, 2016 10:02 AM in response to IPC_Graphics

Make backup copies of all System and Library fonts, first.


Boot to the Recovery partition and turn off System Integrity Protection. In Recovery mode, launch Terminal from the menu bar. Then enter:


csrutil disable


You should get a return message that SIP has been disabled. Then enter:


reboot


The Mac will restart. Once back at the normal desktop, you'll be able to put any fonts in the trash you want to get rid of and empty the trash.


Return to Recovery mode and repeat as above, except turn SIP back on by entering:


csrutil enable

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