Just a curiosity: Stewart Brand, the famous editor of "Whole Earth Catalog" magazine created his website on iWeb.

The famous Steve Jobs phrase "Stay Hungry, Stay Foolish" on his Steve Jobs' 2005 Stanford Commencement Address, he paraphrased it from the famous counterculture magazine "The Whole Earth Catalog", https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_Earth_Catalog , that he loved so much.

The editor of the magazine created his website on iWeb, witch is no accident!


Stewart Brand Website: http://sb.longnow.org/


I LOVE iWEB!

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Posted on Dec 12, 2016 5:12 AM

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Dec 13, 2016 3:15 PM in response to Corier

so, I don't quite understand what your point is here?


The website that you linked to is a very basic iWeb site that has been created - I have seen better ones.


Also, you still have to remember that most folks have moved on from iWeb a long time ago now - it is unsupported and has not been updated for years and is no longer sold, so move on!!


You claim to be a web designer? If so, then I would not ask you to create any site for me, let alone any other designed that informed me that they were going to use iWeb.


Stop bleeting and move on!!

Dec 13, 2016 3:34 PM in response to Ethmoid

My point here is very simple: Simply sharing my enthusiasm for this amazing software, where I believe there are other enthusiastic people as me for this software.

The only reason I see that you wouldn't like to have a website created by iWeb, are for 2 reasons (that they are easily corrected):
- Not so easy for SEO;

- Not responsive for different screen sizes;

1º For SEO, editing the HTML code it can be easily implemented good SEO. In fact one of my Clients is first place on Ranking on Google on his niche.

2º It is possible to create a web mobile version, using a script that detects the width screen and redirects to a shorter width page.


Maybe you don't live in a Socialist country, where entrepreneurial freedom/spirit is not so easily accepted, and when you have the taste of freedom (yes, using a simple intuitive software as iWeb) that able a young man with a lot of doubt and negative pressure, starts his own small service business, you value a lot all the software that Apple created - witch to all respect to other developers, for me there is no one like iWeb.


This could seem to be to much "poetic" or too much "drama" - witch I accept it could be - but with apps like iWeb, I feel and can see the vision of Steve Jobs: giving tools for freedom.


I just helped a company having a tremendously success with a elegant and simple website made with iWeb.
I am getting Clients brought by Google AdWords, with my clean and very simple website made with iWeb.


Do You understand that a young man living in a Socialist country is able to do what he loves to do because of this magnifique toolbox called MacBookPro with the fantastic software that he came with, like simple iWeb?


If wasn't for iWeb, I was believe I was not doing what I really love - here on a Socialist country.
I would have to lost the DOUBLE (at least) to learn another software to use.


And to your response, I know there are similar to iWeb software, (I tried the trial of many of them), but no one I can feel the beautiful buttons, the smoothness of iWeb.

Sorry if this answer was to way out of your direct reply, witch it really was, but I believe that there are another people like me who can feel the taste of using the freedom that Apple (the "old" Apple") gave to us, with they beautiful and easy to use default Apps.


And that's why I love iWeb.

Dec 14, 2016 2:49 AM in response to Corier

Wow, you do make a lot of assumptions, most of which are incorrect.


Anyway, I did use iWeb and created several websites using it, but this was when iWeb was actually still supported and sold by Apple. I had no problem with the SEO part of it and used the Rage Software SEO application for this and my site was always found.


In the end, I ditched iWeb because the websites and iWeb itself were looking tired and old and I wanted more from my websites, especially my business websites, which is why I moved onto the Content Management Systems Drupal and Wordpress. For my business sites especially, I needed the ability to allow member to log into the sites and that ability is there with both Drupal and Wordpress, but cannot be done with iWeb, unless you use a lot of code and by going directly to the server itself.


It is simply not true now that you cannot design nice looking sites with WordPress. All the themes have become more sophisticated and you can add your own code to any theme if you wish to, but with the advent of themes such as Divi 3 and Avada 5, you can create pretty much any design you want.


Everyone needs to move on sometime and ditch what has gone, so stop being so childish and just move on, rather than continuing to spout this nonsense about loving iWeb.


Most others have moved on - time to do the same and one more thing, - if you really are a web designer, as you claim to be, which I very much doubt, no decent web designed would ever use iWeb now.


Most web designers use the most modern way to create good looking sites and that is by using the CMS's or just by hand coding.

Dec 14, 2016 3:03 AM in response to Ethmoid

Yes it is true iWeb is no more supported by Apple. The unique solution to keep using this software without bugs, is still using the OS X Yosemite, as I use.

I've done websites for Clients, that don't seem old and they do what they should done:

  • Communicate elegantly and clearly without persuading to sell;
  • Communicate to sell.

CMS platforms like Joomla, that I've already used, are a very good option but don't have the "white canvas" where you can freely draw as iWeb. Yes Wordpress is very good, I agree, but is not as "free to draw" as iWeb.


My Clients are Small/Medium Business owners that need more Clients. And with iWeb that is possible: having a good message and communicated clearly and elegantly.


I am a Webdesigner, I would love to send you a private message with my websites to see your opinion.


Most web designers use the most modern way to create good looking sites and that is by using the CMS's or just by hand coding.

Yes it is true, that why in my opinion most designers suck. As most "marketing agencies" who trough millions on "Branding" without a clue of what they are doing, instead of use safe strategy as Direct Response Marketing – witch with iWeb is easily done, and it works. I'm attracting Clients using a simple iWeb Website with a good (as I think) sales letter.


And my Clients just want more Clients or too do an update on their communication.
And a iWeb website for them, works perfectly.

Dec 16, 2016 2:39 AM in response to Corier

Having looked at the sites, they are all quite good websites - nothing very outstanding about the design - they are pretty basic really, but if that is what is wanted, then iWeb can still achieve that for you.


If you want a basic web presence with a contact form an information, then fine and iWeb can be used to achieve that, but now days most people want more for and from a business website. They want the ability to have members signing up and newsletter sign ups etc. and lots more fancy things that is very difficult to achieve with iWeb. That is why I switched one of my sites to Drupal and my other to Wordpress - I can have forms that are stored on the database itself and also membership log in and sign up etc.


I want more from my business websites now, so if you want logins and sign ups then you can't use iWeb - it is a no go and always has been.


My main site is with Drupal and I have a couple of others with Wordpress - they have moved on a long way now, so you can design what you want with the colours that you want, especially with Wordpress and the Divi 3 theme and the Avada 5 theme.


The last thing in the world I would want is for you to design a website for me using iWeb!! Think on.

Dec 16, 2016 3:23 AM in response to Ethmoid

Thank You for your opinion.

but now days most people want more for and from a business website.


Yes you are perfectly correct, there are many Clients that already have a pré-ideia about what they want of a website. About Sign-Up and DataBase yes completely agree, iWeb is not so easy to do that - I believe it can be done, but is incredibly easy to use another platform.

I am still keeping with the basics: A Client contacts me that he wants a Website. Ok, he wants that for what? For getting more Clients? If Yes, he doesn't need fancy things, he just need the basics:
- A good Message/Sales letter (CopyWriting);
- SEO or Not, depending of competition;

- Paid Advertisement.

He doesn't need to all the last technologic fancy things for the Website. One of my clients he is the first one on his niche at Google ranking. Using very basic SEO with iWeb.

I mean, less is more.


A Client just need to have the right Product, to the right Market thought the right Media. If he wants to play the "Competition Game" that's ok, but I prefer to be intelligent and going trough a different/unexplored angle, and persuade him to be intelligent. When a client has a pre-idea about what he wants, ok I do it to, using another platform, but I try to honest persuade to just use the less possible "fancy stuff".

I guess this is just basic Salesmanship. And a Website I think is nothing more than Salesmanship.


Why should he has all the last fancy technology, as "responsive" websites, "flat" icons, last trend "SEO Secrets", etc etc?


We all know that not always our Clients have a good Product or Service that doesn't need good Marketing, but even if we are going to the "Competition Game" with Marketing, we can do it with less effort avoiding Competition and using a unexplored angle.


Is like meeting women. If you are blond and blue eyes in Latinos counties, you are exotic, your chances are you can have more success that the locals on their country, and you don't need to a big effort to compete. Now if you are blond and blue eyes and you are going to North Europe, you are one of many.


What I love about iWeb is because I can control everything and draw on a "white canvas" - and this feeling for me is just incredible. And all of this so easy and simple.

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