Which Inboard Partners for RX 480 Do You Prefer in Your Mac Pro 4,1 or 5,1?

As of today in current mainstream for classic Mac Pro, AMD Radeon RX 480 turns out arguably the best graphic card available at affordable price range in aspects of value, power consumption, future-proof (w/8gb) and especially OS X build-in driver support. With some excitement, I am on verge of owning one and to feel what the Red Team feels.


Is there any particular inboard partner you would recommend and why? i.e. Sapphire, XFX, Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS, PowerColor, VisionTek, etc.


Would you share any painful/undesired experience you had with some particular cards in classic Mac Pro? e.g. Power overdraw, Incompatibility, Hardware limitation, Reliability, Warranty, etc.


Could you possibly list advantage or disadvantage of inboard partner of your choice over another in your personal experience?


Setting the price difference aside, selecting the right one is a little more challenging than I originally thought. Love to learn from your invaluable experience! 🙂

Mac Pro (Mid 2012), macOS Sierra (10.12.2), 2 x 6-core 3.45GHz 64GB 850 Evo SSD

Posted on Jan 19, 2017 5:07 AM

Reply
4 replies

Jan 20, 2017 5:43 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Good point! Yes it would be much simpler. Nevertheless a single partner does not integrate dual 6-pins design into the cards anymore (even though GPU architecture is more power-efficient than ever before) – in a way they are suggesting that 6-pins power supply board design is history, and care no more? Yet the Polaris architecture maker AMD implemented 1x6-pin connecter in RX 480 reference design with typical board power specification of 150W. Its power requirement bill seems perfectly fit the power budget of Mac Pro 2000-2012 or even older ones. Is it the-match-made-in-heaven for cMP fans?

User uploaded file

You could possibly get away with 2xmini 6-pins to 8-pins or Y-splitters setup, which is quite feasible albeit at your own expense. (Direct mini 6-pins to 8-pins is a lot more at risk!) The discussion found in online forums (MacRumors) and expert reports (macvidcards) is reasonably convincing. But it is only natural to think that the threshold exists and depends on the card's power specs and choice of cable, as well as the factors mainly concerned with degree of overdrive and wiring configuration. One of the MacRumors members from Can the 6-pin gpu poewr cable in the Mac Pro be used on a 8 pin gpu like a 770? at #15 post explained it the best:


"It is clear to me that using a video card with either a 6 pin/8 pin combo or a dual 8 pin combo in a mac pro without an auxiliary power supply is exceeding the power budget of the computer and therefore posing some risk of intermittent behavior or possible component damage.


Does this work acceptably for some people? Sure. there are variations in tolerances and headroom factors that come into play. But there are no guarantees that this will work acceptably for any individual computer. Caveat Emptor!


There is absolutely NO reason for a graphics card manufacturer to put an 8 pin connector on a card UNLESS it requires more than 75 watts at the connector. The 8 pin connector is more expensive and takes more board real estate. The 8 pin cable is backwards compatible with the 6 pin connector, so there is no concern with the wiring harness of the computer. If you only need 75 watts at the connector, you can plug in either a 6 pin cable or an 8 pin cable.


It is technically possible to design a card that can sense whether a 6 pin or 8 pin cable is plugged into an 8 pin socket, that is the purpose of the second sense line. It is therefore possible to have the card modify its power profile depending on the cable plugged into it. This however is likely to increase the cost of the card, and therefore unlikely for consumer cards. It is cheaper for the manufacturer to put on the 8 pin connector if they need more than 75 watts at the connection and publish the overall power requirements of the card. If the consumer plugs in the 6 pin cable and disregards the published requirements the manufacturer is not at fault.


So what is the answer? You should not use a 6 pin cable in a 8 pin socket UNLESS you know that the card supports a modified power profile based on the sense pins. Having said this, the choice is ultimately up to you and you may encounter no problems whatsoever - regardless of the fact you are exceeding the specifications. Or in a worst case (and admittedly relatively low probability) you could fry your motherboard and/or start a fire.


To put things in perspective, thousands of people exceed the maximum limits for strings of Christmas lights every year. Most people never have an issue. A very small number of people have their homes burn down."

Jan 19, 2017 10:14 AM in response to ShaneMAGman

The compelling issue (in my opinion) is supplying power.


The PCIe slot is said to supply 75 Watts. A 6-pin aux cable is good for 75 Watts, and an eight-pin aux cable, 150 Watts.


Your silver tower Mac Pro has only two 6-pin aux connectors, so there is no direct match for an 8-pin aux cable, and you cannot just wire 6-to-8, you need another 75 Watts, not just more wires.)


So any partner that can produce a board that requires only two 6-pin aux cables will be far, far simpler to install and run.

This thread has been closed by the system or the community team. You may vote for any posts you find helpful, or search the Community for additional answers.

Which Inboard Partners for RX 480 Do You Prefer in Your Mac Pro 4,1 or 5,1?

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.