how many Amps used when charging MacBookPro11,1 13" retina (Late 2013) with power off

how many Amps used when charging MacBookPro11,1 13" retina (Late 2013) with MacBook power turned off?


A/C charger is 16.5 volts, 3.65 Amps. I am looking at DC inverter from 12V to 110V. It operates at 120 watts continuous with peaks to 150 watts. If Amp usage, when charging MacBook, with power off is 1.1 Amps or less (110 V x 1.1 Amps = 121 watts), then this inverter should work safely from a power perspective to charge the battery only but not enough to power the MacBook when the unit is "on" (screen lit up)....wave shape is another story but not part of this question.


The inverter is called: KensingtonAuto/Airplane Power Inverter as seen here. Does anyone have an opinion of this product or the application I am planning to use it for - to charge my MacBookPro from motorcycle while riding, during long term trip. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=905799&gclid=CjwKEAiAi-_ FBRCZyPm_14CjoyASJAClUigOWOy17UDbyOtazYO…

MacBook Pro with Retina display, OS X El Capitan (10.11.6), model: MacBookPro11,1

Posted on Mar 6, 2017 12:31 AM

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Mar 7, 2017 11:12 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

First off, thanks Grant for the time spent and education you are providing me. If it’s not already obvious, I know very little about electricity…or maybe just enough to get myself into deep trouble. I’m trying to figure this all out but I am full of doubt and I don’t understand the significance of all these specs. My objective is to find out if this Kensington Converter from DC to AC will theoretically work (charge my MacBookPro battery) when the MBP power is off, the MBP A/C charger is plugged in to the inverter and the inverter connected to a 12V motorcycle battery charged by a 250 watt stator, with the constant electrical demands of the motorcycle (lights) consuming 100 watts while running, leaving 150 watts available to consume without discharging the battery while the bike is running. The inverter will only be used when the motorcycle is running while moving so the stator is actually charging the battery while the electrical demands of the lights on the bike and the inverter connected to the MPB is drawing power from the bike battery…hopefully at a rate less than the power consumption of the bike's lights and MBP charger from the battery.


If you are able to answer this bigger question I’d appreciate it. If you are able to explain it, that would be even better. If you see problems with this set up, from the bike battery to the inverter to the Mac power charger…please let me know what they are and if there is an easy fix. This whole thing started with me trying to find a portable power pak, (battery) that I could use to recharge the MBP, while traveling and camping and not having daily access to A/C charging. But, the power pak mfg’s cannot provide a battery with a Magsafe2 plug because this plug design is patented and protected by Apple and they won’t let any of the portable battery mfg’s use the design. There is no other way to charge the MBP than through the Magsafe port. The USB slots on the old MBP’s flow power only one way, out and not in. Now the 2016 MBP has the USB-C port that flows power both ways so it can be used as a charging port and plug into portable power packs…that’s great but it doesn’t help me, it can’t be retrofitted or added on to my Mac. I could just sell my 2013 MBP and upgrade to the new one but that is not an option for me right now.


The OEM power supply or battery charger outputs a maximum of 3.65A at 16.5V.

The OEM power supply / battery charger input spec is 1.5A, 110-240V. (1.5 x 110 = 165 watts) Is the 1.5A a minimum or maximum? If the inverter can output 120 watts continuous for 2 hrs and 5 minute bursts of 150 watts, will the MBP power charger want to pull 165 watts to operate properly or is that the max it can handle...and is their minimum it needs to work properly and if yes what is it? What will the inverter be putting out or pushing into the MBP charger assuming it is capable of the 120 watt continuous and 150 watt surge. And is all of that dependent on what is available from the 12 V battery and the 250 watt stator that is charging it? I think I have a basic understanding of this flow but I don’t know where the bottlenecks are, where the whole process is limited by one spec or another due Minimums or Maximums and what they mean on a practical level. Thanks in advance for your reply if choose to jump in to this deep hole. Tim

Mar 7, 2017 3:30 AM in response to twhardman

A Mac power adapter has two ratings: power output (which you have been studying carefully), and power input (which you have not mentioned).


To make sure your inverter will work without issue, forget about what the MacBook draws, and be sure you meet the power INPUT (to the Mac Power adapter) numbers. Remember that some of the power input is disputed as heat, so you need MORE than just what the Mac draws.

Mar 7, 2017 3:51 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks for the helpful reply. The input on my charger says 100-240V 1.5A 50 - 60 Hz.

1.5A X 110V = 165 watts not counting for any loss due to heat.


"Apple recommends for keeping your MacBookPro at full power" - this is what it says in the link below

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/TW696LL/A


I'm guessing the MacBookPro I have with RETINA screen may bump up the power required (input power) required by the MBP charger which appears to be more than this inverter can push out to the charger. It seems strange that the apple.com website listed above would carry this product but not mention that this product does not work with all MBP's. Or am I doing my calculations wrong?

Mar 8, 2017 7:19 AM in response to twhardman

You are way over thinking this. The specs for the inverter are provided by the inverter manufacturer. If your motorcycle can not provide the necessary power for the required 60 watt output to your computer then the inverter will not work. Ask your motorcycle manufacturer and the inverter supplier if their products will allow the inverter to charge your computer at 60 watts.

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