Audio Cycle Record - Creating New Tracks?

I have been trying to do cycle record of an audio part. Of course I am able to compile a series of tracks, but they all overlap, when what I would prefer is for new tracks to be created automatically. What's the setting to make this happen?
Thanks in advance ...

Power Mac G5 Dual 2 Ghz, Mac OS X (10.4.8), Ensemble, Logic Pro 7.2.3

Posted on Dec 27, 2006 5:41 PM

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Dec 27, 2006 10:21 PM in response to Jason Jones3

Yes, exactly. And this seems to be a fairly new
phenomenon - I've done normal cycle recording in the
past, so when the app started behaving this way, I
assumed I inadvertantly changed a setting, but none
of the obvious ones are altered ...


If what you wrote is indeed the case, then it looks like its time for you to re-initialize your preferences in Logic. They DO become worn out over time.

Write down whatever is necessary from your current preferences before you do this.

Dec 27, 2006 10:47 PM in response to sonther

I use the "cycle record create new tracks" often, and have wondered why each region on each new track cannot be muted or soloed apart from one another. Has anyone else here noticed this?

Each new cycle region recorded onto each new "track" is not a stand alone file represented in the audio window, but instead appears to be a small portion of one large continuous file that was recorded during the entire cycle region recording process. Although each new cycle region is placed onto a new "track" when it is cycled-recorded, all of the new tracks have the same track number. This makes it difficult in trying to solo or mute each new region for auditioning purposes.

In order to "separate" the new regions onto their new "tracks" in a way that would allow each of them to be muted and soloed individually, etc., it is necessary to remove each region from the arrange window, then drag the respective file portions from the one large file in the audio window back onto the arrange window in separate tracks! This is a laborious and tedious process, and I have not been able to figure out how to get around it.

Perhaps I am missing something somewhere... I have not been able to figure out how to get around this problem. What am I doing wrong here?

Any helpful suggestions would be appreciated.

Dec 27, 2006 11:13 PM in response to David Albracht

and have wondered why each region on each new track
cannot be muted or soloed apart from one another.


Works fine for me. They are independant regions.
Maybe you're missing the fact that muting a track, muting a region, and muting a mixer channel are three entirely different functions?

Each new cycle region recorded onto each new "track" is
not a stand alone file represented in the audio window,
but instead appears to be a small portion of one large
continuous file that was recorded during the entire cycle
region recording process.


Correct. Every audio region in the arrange page is a portion of the audio file in the audio window. In some cases, the region spans the whole audio file, in others, you could have many small regions reflecting different parts of that one audio file, like cutting out a snare hit and pasting it in different positions in the arrange. It's a basic Logic concept. Hence the name "region" ie, a region of the audio file.

When you cycle record for 12 loops through the cycle, Logic is not stopping each time the cycle resets, it's making a continuous recording, and each pass through the cycle is given it's own region and placed on subsequent tracks, so you can easily sort out and see which takes were which.

Although each new cycle region is placed onto a new "track"
when it is cycled-recorded, all of the new tracks have the
same track number.


No, different tracks, same track instrument (let's say, audio channel 4).
This is also a basic concept in Logic. Let's say you placed 6 plugins to make your vocal sound great. If each take went to a new audio channel, then you'd have to duplicate all these plugins just to compare takes. Of course, you can still do that if you want to, but Logic's concept of being able to have multiple tracks all assigned to the same object (or "Track Instrument" in Logic speak) is a great and very useful one.

his makes it difficult in trying to solo or mute each
new region for auditioning purposes.


How is it difficult? You can mute/solo each track (and therefore each take). You can mute/solo each region (and therefore each take), or you can mute the audio object in the mixer, thereby not hearing any regions assigned to that mixer channel.

In order to "separate" the new regions onto their new "tracks"
in a way that would allow each of them to be muted and soloed
individually, etc., it is necessary to remove each region from the
arrange window, then drag the respective file portions from the
one large file in the audio window back onto the arrange window
in separate tracks!


You've lost me here. None of that is necessary. Just mute the tracks or regions you want to mute, it's easy, and all the regions are independent - no "separation" is necessary.

I don't really understand where you are having a problem...?

Dec 28, 2006 5:12 AM in response to David Albracht

I'm wondering if you're confused at how Logic creates new tracks when doing cycle record. Cycle recording in Logic will create new tracks tied to the same audio/instrument channel. This is how it is supposed to work.

As far listening to your muted regions, simply click on your mute tool and click on the region to unmute (or mute) it and mute the other region. As well, you can use the solo tool on your regions as well. There's nothing to it, really.

jord

Dec 28, 2006 7:47 PM in response to jord

Thank you BeeJay and Jord for the responses and for the very helpful suggestions.

I have not had the chance to troubleshoot my cycle record difficulties since my post last night, but your input and suggestions make perfect sense. I was not aware that muting a track, muting a region, and muting a channel are all different things. Every time that I would hit the mute button on the subsequent tracks containing the cycled recorded "regions" already muted, then all of the cycled "regions" would become unmuted and vice versa. It appears that I need to use the mute tool to individually mute/unmute the cycled takes.

Problem solved!

Thanks again.

Dec 28, 2006 8:18 PM in response to David Albracht

Yep that's correct - or use the track mutes to mute each take, as they are on seperate tracks (which is the whole point of the "auto create tracks in cycle record").

When you say "hit the mute button" you probably mean the audio channel mute, hence the behaviour you were getting.

Think of track and region muting as arrangement tools (ie, deciding what bits of audio on the arrange page to play through the mixer - "Ok, I want this phrase from this take, then the chorus from this take over here" and so on), and mixer channel muting as a mixing tool ("I'll just mute the vocal for a sec while I work on the guitars")

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