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Apple Aperture in Sierra 10.12.3:

Since a Google searching the above terms turns up nothing, I thought I;d report what I've observed so far:


I just installed Sierra 10.12.3 on my late-2015 5K Core i7 iMac (40GB/500GB) with no other apps installed. I re-downloaded and opened Aperture 3.6 and it crashed during an SD-card import. Later, I opened Aperture and imported some files from its internal SSD. So far, no crashes. I haven't yet tried opening any libraries created in earlier OSs to see if the metadata bug still crashes 10.12.3. Since Aperture seems to be running without any noticeable anomalies (thumbnails are correct, full-screen toggling works, etc.), I may forstall my conversion to Photos.


One really poor implementation with Photos' defaults: The lack of being able to set a default aspect ratio when cropping is really unforgivable, Apple, even in a consumer app (setting "freeform" as the default will only solicit increasingly horrible cropping decisions by neophyte photographers). Also, pressing the 'Z' key no longer zooms-in to 100% no matter where the slider is set (it did in El Capitan). Okay, Photos rant over. On the plus side, Photos is really beautiful to look at, but the disappearance of keyboard shortcuts hinders those in a hurry to get their work done. Okay, sorry about that last one.


Anyone else using Aperture 3.6 on recent-generation iMacs in Sierra 10.12.3?

iMac with Retina 5K display, macOS Sierra (10.12.3), 40GB RAM 500GB SSD

Posted on Mar 23, 2017 10:44 PM

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Mar 24, 2017 10:34 PM in response to Yer_Man

Terence:


Again, I've been wrestling with this dilemma since 2014. Here's my top choices:


• Capture One Pro 10


Happily, C1 has launched a brand new point-version of C1 where at least one reviewer states that it's now significantly faster than LR. C1 has excellent colorimetry, especially for flesh-tones and a strong feature-set. Media Pro SE, it its former incarnations was less glowingly received. Since the DAM component is almost as important as the editing component, Media Pro remains a key consideration. I've tried the C1 demo, but am still far from proficient with the app, and am not looking forward to the learning curve.


• Photo Mechanic + DxO Optics Pro


Ingest and manually catalog using the Finder with Photo Mechanic. One plus is that Photo Mechanic is wicked-fast and is AP-IPTC compliant. And DxO's camera- and lens-specific profiles have produced the best images from my Nikon gear of any RAW developer I've tried. A cityscape shot with a Nikon D3s + AF Nikkor 14mm f/2.8D was transformed by DxO with truly impressive results (though not easily seen in this photo, fine detail in the buildings were greatly improved). Note that the edge-sharpness on the Nikkor 14mm is nothing to write home about to begin with.


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Mar 23, 2017 11:33 PM in response to studio460

Also:


MacRumors reports that Aperture has "limited compatibility" with Sierra. They mention that Aperture 3.6's limitations are listed in the Sierra release notes, "Aperture 3.6 (limitations listed in Sierra release notes)." I cannot find these release notes where Aperture is mentioned. But the fact that Aperture is mentioned in the Sierra release notes at all, many take as a good sign from Apple.

Mar 24, 2017 2:33 AM in response to Yer_Man

Terrence:


Why do I want to move to a less-capable photo-editor/DAM? Well, I don't, really. But after more than two years of hemming and hawing after Apple's EOL announcement of Aperture, I haven't been too keen on any of my other options. Last night, I did my first edit with Photos, and it actually wasn't that bad. Here's a few of the reasons I'm considering the move to Photos:


• iCloud Drive integration.

• Sierra's SSD-aware "snapshot" support.

• It's most Aperture-like.

• It's fast.

• Clean UI.

• Capture One Pro doesn't accept plug-ins.

• I don't like LR's modal workflow.

• I already own almost every third-party Photos extension available.

• Photos will get better.


Believe me, this was a hard-fought decision. Here's some of the photo apps I also own licenses to (with the exception of C1):


• Lightroom

• Photoshop

• Pixelmator

• Photo Mechanic

• DxO Optics Pro

• Capture One Pro

• Nikon Capture NX-D


Of course, Aperture was my favorite, and Imagenomic's Portraiture for Aperture was my most-used plug-in (I think it's probably the best skin-smoothing software available). Only Aperture (and Capture NX-D) showed the camera's actual focus-point (C1 has its focus-mask, but it's not quite the same thing). Since Apple has decided that Photos is a key part of their product strategy, its tight integration with the OS is likely a plus for speed, stability, and continued development, plus, I assume its feature set will eventually improve.


I mainly also want to simply my life and have decided to commit to Apple's iCloud Drive for primary cloud storage. We own all-macOS desktops, laptops, and iOS devices, so it makes sense. Among the other cloud services I've used/continue to use: I canceled my iDrive account last Xmas. Google Drive reportedly compresses your files. And, although I also currently have unlimited Amazon Prime storage, plus a commercial SmugMug account for client-delivery, I want an OS-integrated cloud solution that my GF (who has limited technical knowledge and only takes iPhone photos) can also use.


All that said, it seems Apple is secretly attempting to maintain some modicum of Aperture compatibility due to the Sierra release notes mention, and as long as it still works in Sierra, I guess I'll keep using it. But of course, I can't count on that forever.

Mar 24, 2017 2:54 AM in response to studio460

Gosh, it's really annoying there's no edit feature here. I have a typo in my initial post ("a Google searching" should be "a Google search"), plus I spelled your name wrong. Sorry. But, seriously, you type in "Sierra 10.12.3" and "Aperture" in Google, and nothing comes up. A handful older threads do, but they're all several months old, and aren't 10.12.3-specific.


The older threads mention bugs I'm not seeing—which is good I guess—though they were probably due to the pre-Sierra metadata issue (again, I haven't tried opening any pre-Sierra libraries). I did note at least one Aperture user claiming crash-free operation in Sierra. I can't recall what exact action broke Aperture last night, but I've been running Aperture (really just opening and closing the app with a few test photos) for a two days now, with no problems other than that one crash.

Mar 24, 2017 5:55 AM in response to studio460

Photos may get better, but do you really think it will ever get feature parity with Aperture? And given that's now 5 years behind Lightroom and C1, what are the chances of it ever getting to where the are?


That's why I changed, and like you, have searched and searched, and am ripe for a better solution than LR.


Plus, that white flat interface on Photos is just all wrong.

Mar 25, 2017 1:28 AM in response to Yer_Man

Terence wrote: "Photos may get better, but do you really think it will ever get feature parity with Aperture?"


Probably, no. And after almost two years since Photos' initial roll-out as a part of Apple's Yosemite OS upgrade, I'm pretty disappointed by the lack of progress so far. Also, a lot of hope was pinned on extensions' potential for in-app integration of round-tripping to third-party apps without the requisite .TIF intermediate file by former Aperture users. I bought almost every commercial Photos extension available at the time, and a recent trip to the AppStore shows that nothing much new has arrived—mostly just a bunch of filter apps.


But after doing that edit session the other night, I actually have few qualms with Photos (although one of them is a doozy):


• No loupe (and pressing 'Z' twice no longer produces a 100% zoom).

• No user-assignable default setting for cropping aspect ratio (please fix this, Apple!).

• No keyboard short-cut to return to thumbnail view.

• And here's the big one: No traditional file-management tools (e.g., folders) for Photos library.

And that last one is a big one. I can live with the others. But as I said, I'm heavily inclined to stay with Photos for reasons already mentioned, the main ones I'll re-state:

• Tight-integration with the company's OS (which should support increased speed and stability).

• Tight-integration with iCloud Drive (virtually eliminating any management overhead of off-site backup chores).

• Ultra-clean UI.

• Potential for extensions APIs to bring more, needed features.

None of my other options can really compete on these particular bullet-points. I'm still considering LR, if only for the fact that it's one of the three apps which Imagenomic's Portraiture plug-in supports (the other two being Photoshop and Aperture). Since my main focus is headshots and portraiture, this app is virtually indispensable.

Mar 25, 2017 1:39 AM in response to studio460

I'm a hobbyist and also manage the family library, so the app I went for had to be pretty easily usable for some, but more powerful for others. That ruled out C1, for instance, as it makes demands of the user that the lighter users would never go for. Your ultra-clean UI is my bug-ugly, tbh. It is just not a pleasant space to spend time in. The round-tripping is not as easy or efficient as actually using the tool itself. The poor support for referenced images is another no-no for me.


Couple of things: What do you mean by this:


• And here's the big one: No traditional file-management tools (e.g., folders) for Photos library.


• Tight-integration with iCloud Drive (virtually eliminating any management overhead of off-site backup chores).


Be wary of this. The iCloud Photo Library is a sharing service not a back up. It is the one big selling point the app has, just not one I have any use for.

Mar 25, 2017 4:57 AM in response to Yer_Man

Thanks for your comments, Terence. I can benefit greatly from Apple's iCloud Drive's sharing feature, and as secondary or tertiary off-site back-up, I think iCloud Drive is a great solution for all-macOS households. Previously, I just never considered Apple's cloud services since they were woefully over-priced. Now that they've slashed their prices in half, it's back in the plan.


As for Photos, I just ingested some images off a CF card into Photos and I love how it identifies files already uploaded from the card. Again, I think Photo's OS-integration is its greatest asset. We'll just have to agree to disagree on the UI—I think it's gorgeous.


Although my back-up set-up is far from perfect, I'm currently setting up my primary storage on an APC-backed, 2TB SSD array, connected to my new, 5K Core i7 iMac. Every new Mac purchase from this point on has been SSD-equipped. I'm about to dump the last magnetic HDD-equipped iMac and replace it with a new Core i5 iMac with a 256GB SSD for GF. She will definitely be set-up for Photos/iCloud Drive so everything is simple as possible for her (she has a separate iCloud account). I'm still considering various NAS-storage devices for local back-up, but SSDs are becoming affordable enough to use them in redundant, mirrored-arrays.


Personal events (e.g., birthdays, Xmas, etc.) get copied to DVD-R media using a stand-alone (no computer required) EZPnP DVD-writer. It accepts multiple media formats (e.g., CF, SD, etc.), supports disc-spanning, and works great. Archive life of polycarbonate media is still in question, but that's what I'm doing for now. Client stuff goes to the SmugMug site, at full-resolution, and with unlimited capacity (SmugMug uses Amazon's enterprise S3 storage). I haven't figured out if I'm going to continue to use my Amazon Prime storage, but at least for now, I think iCloud Drive is a pretty slick solution.

Mar 25, 2017 5:37 AM in response to Yer_Man

Oh . . . When I said, "And here's the big one: No traditional file-management tools (e.g., folders) for Photos library," and you asked: "What do you mean by this?"


Obviously, I'm still new to Photos and only just figuring out how it works. I'm trying to figure out what Photos-speak terms mean. I suppose "folders" are albums.


• Albums: User-created "folders."

• Memories: AI-created groups of images which share common traits (e.g., faces, geotags, etc.)

• Collections: Not sure what these are.

• Years: I assume a database filter "by year."


However, I just selected 407 images in the Photos browser, clicked "File" -> "New Album," and was asked "add 470 photos to album?" I named th album and clicked "OK." Nothing shows up in the albums tab.

Mar 26, 2017 12:24 AM in response to studio460

I can benefit greatly from Apple's iCloud Drive's sharing feature, and as secondary or tertiary off-site back-up, I think iCloud Drive is a great solution for all-macOS households.


Remember that if an image or images are deleted from a device then they are deleted from the iCloud Photo Library. So, if your HD goes down and you lose images they will also be deleted from the iCloud Library - hence it is not a back up...

Mar 26, 2017 11:08 AM in response to Yer_Man

Yes, thanks for pointing that out. For now I've set up a 2TB SSD array for local storage attached to my 5K iMac and I've been contemplating installing a large NAS device since I have 1GbE hardwired throughout the house. I bought a subscription to iDrive last year because they support multiple devices, but never really followed through with its implementation. SD media is now affordable enough that I was even thinking of archiving individual shoots on card-media.


I've never had a formal back-up regime in place, so I promised I would start one this year:


• Local 2TB SSD for Photos libraries.

• 2TB iCloud Drive mirrors local Photos libraries.

• SmugMug account for client-deliverables (i.e., secondary back-up).

• Planned NAS for primary back-ups (probably rotating magnetic HDDs).

• DVD-R for special events (i.e., tertiary back-up.).

Mar 26, 2017 12:59 PM in response to studio460

So, back to the original topic: I think Aperture does have too many issues with Sierra 10.12.3, even though it runs almost perfectly. After reading the other Aperture/10.12.3 threads here, I am noticing similar issues; e.g., Aperture doesn't load the entire memory card. That alone is enough to switch. And I think I'm switching now. Maybe Photos won't be my final destination, but I'm giving a good run for now.

Mar 26, 2017 2:38 PM in response to studio460

I just installed the $0.99 External Editors for Photos extension (possibly the best deal ever) from the AppStore, and re-downloaded Google's Nik Collection, for which I had previously owned the for-pay licenses. Works great from within Photos! Photos is no Aperture, and certainly won't compete with full-fledged pro apps like LR or C1, but I have to admit, I'm liking it.


For "serious" work, I'll continue to use DxO Optics Pro as my primary RAW developer, which I've been using for years, and already know how to use. Its body- and lens-specific corrections database is truly unmatched and produces markedly improved images, especially for landscape/architecture work. But I may have to break down and subscribe to a Photoshop CC license to continue to use my Imagenomic Portraiture plug-in for high-end portrait work, but for now, Photos isn't all that bad.

Mar 28, 2017 3:32 PM in response to studio460

I just bought Serif's Affinity Photo for $49.99 from the AppStore. See PhotoApps.Expert's webisode interview with Serif's managing director—this app is fast. I also bought DxO Optics Pro Photos extensions for $9.99. I just learned that this app enables the same extensive body- and lens-specific corrections database in the Photos extension version of the product—impressive for only $9.99 (I'm also able to upgrade my copy of DxO v10 to the stand-alone version of DxO OpticsPro 11 for half-price).


Affinity is also on record to be planning a DAM component for its flagship Photoshop replacement. If this actually surfaces, this should be an extremely robust replacement for former Aperture users. Combined with Serif's design and layout applications, you could replace the entire Adobe Creative Suite (ie., Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign), with Serif's suite. Serif's real-time image-processing performance is so impressive, I don't have any desire to go back to Adobe Photoshop, ever.


Imagenomic also just issued me a discount to cross-grade to the Photoshop version of their Portraiture plug-in. Though not perfect, it's supposed to work with Affinity Photo as a plug-in. Although Photos isn't the ideal ingest and cataloguing app, at least for now, it can perform as a perfectly functional hub for these other highly capable apps via extensions, or through the excellent and insanely affordable, External Editors for Extensions ($0.99 from the AppStore). The addition of DxO's corrections database as a simple Photos extension is also a significant feather in Photos' cap. Goodbye, Aperture! See ya later, Adobe!

Jul 19, 2017 7:57 AM in response to studio460

I use the last update of Aperture on the latest Sierra (10.12.5 at this time) on a 2016 MacBook Pro with the Touch Bar. It runs fine. But, I am a journalistic photographer, shooting documentary type photos. I seldom do anything to photos other than simple adjustments to exposure, curves and the like—nothing artistic—plus cropping. I use metadata extensively. Seeing the end of Aperture support—and fruitlessly shopping around for a replacement—I decided to stop using proprietary software for managing my photo library. Even with Aperture, I stopped using internal storage and went 100% to storing files in the file system. I let Aperture build the file hierarchy by year-month-day. Apparently you can do the same thing with EXIFTool, but it runs on the command line in Terminal. EXIFTool also appears to be useful because it can add, change and delete all metadata. There is a plugin for Automator built using EXIFTool. It is called MetaDataMover. It is built on an older version of EXIFTool. It is several years old and you must specifically authorize it to run on Sierra. You can also access EXIFTool directly from Automator. For basic info, try here and here, plus there are others. I am still using Aperture, but am working on file management using EXIFTool. When it is done, I will export all metadata to my existing files and then archive Aperture, keeping it running on a older machine with Mavericks, just in case. For editing, I plan to use whatever works at the moment, but always edit a copy to keep is non-destructive, so to speak. Editing tools include GraphicConverter, Pixelmator, Affinity Photo and Preview. You can edit and crop photos in Keynote. For repetitive edits, it works well. Create a Keynote document using the dimension of your cropped photo. Set up a media placeholder matching the dimensions of the Keynote document. Export your photo to Images. Maybe this helps someone. I am a journalist, not a professional photographer, so Adobe products make no financial sense.

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