Any gotchas with dialup + MacBook Pro (late 2016)?

Don't laugh, but my father only has dial-up (no cable to the house, not even for TV).

I want to give him my old laptop MacBook Pro10,1 Intel Core17, late 2016

running Sierra 10.12.3; I know there is no internal dialup in the laptop,

so I know an external modem is required. Support claims it should just work,

but that sounds too easy so I was hoping someone here had recent experience

and could confirm or caution me.

I'd also like to hook up my old airport extreme to the dialup, but that might be

pushing my luck.

I'm coming in from out of town so I haven't actually tried it yet, I'd just like to

be prepared for failure / knowing if I'm likely to need any additional components

(I have cables) etc.

Much thanks!!

Posted on Apr 5, 2017 6:49 PM

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Apr 6, 2017 2:10 AM in response to Roger Wilmut1

Wonder if the old vintage AirPort Extreme with built-in 56K modem and early

AirPort Utility version (if set up by vintage Mac in older OS X) could connect

a later Mac running OS X so it may use that dial-up AE 56K modem...?


The included 'vintage software kit' had ancient drivers for dial-up;

if set up through an old Mac with that version OS X, it may work.

But then again, it may not.


{I've a few of those old orb 'high-end' models around {including an in-the-box

from Apple Refurbished, as new, unused} & others; none presently in service.}


No dialup at present location, but I had been using an Extreme with ADSL

connection and that model has the 56K modem and an external antenna.


A standalone USB 56K Zoom modem 2005, I was given; was OK in the day.

A matter of driver support and airport utility setup, lacking for recent Macs

is the downfall of this idea.


Could a more recent MacBook model use the discontinued 56K Apple modem USB?😐

Apr 6, 2017 7:34 AM in response to ElaineK

You cannot connect an Airport Extreme either directly to the telephone line or to a modem.


If you buy a third party (i.e. not Apple) modem it should come with the software to install to make it work with your Mac. If you are able to find an Apple USB modem (long discontinued) it might work with the Modem Script you have but I wouldn't bank on it - if it doesn't there's probably no software you can install to make it work; so I should look for a third-party one.


You father should be aware that he will be very limited in what he can do with it. Basic non-html email should work OK; many website either won't load at all or will be slo slow to load as to be unusable. Simple ones will be slow but should work. Remember that even a moderately fast broadband connection is over 500 times as fast as dial-up.

Apr 6, 2017 11:56 AM in response to ElaineK

Perhaps you could check with his phone company to see if

their lines in that area support ADSL, if so then he could get

an inline-filter so regular voice items (phone) would still work

and he could have fairly quick internet over the DSL, too.


The DSL would use a special modem, so the 'phone line'

could carry the other signal at higher rate; and a filter is

used to reduce the signal for a conventional phone, then.


Only one line; but it would cost more than using dialup over

older phone line. The company I'd used dialup over for awhile

chose to replace all their copper heavy cables with twisted-pair

DSL lines, through the woods and 30+ miles away from town.


This was problematic as it hadn't been done there before. Later

on, after customers were paying for defective service & also doing

troubleshooting, the company got it right. Once lines are replaced

the need to use a special filter to limit bandwidth for regular phones

is necessary; even if the internet is no longer used.


Some companies rolled this out, in advance; others sat on their

hands and didn't upgrade regular phone lines to this standard.

If he has DSL twisted-pair lines into his house or residence, the

company can offer faster internet, via a DSL modem, for extra.


The problems with dial-up are many in this information age; because

the packets of data and other bits are so much larger and take time

to download or upload at the imagined 56K (& that's often much less.)


Depending on the location or region, other options (for their fee rate)

may exist to have a fair access to internet for simple computer use.


A trial-run may be to get an older Mac with older software & modem

to see what kind of actual 'un-performance' the dial-up may bring...

Macs with built-in 56K modems + original OS X are limited online.


Good luck & happy trails! 🙂

Apr 6, 2017 12:13 PM in response to ElaineK

Take a MyFi or similar cellular wifi router along as a backup. Also check that your iOS device can tether - it may be useful of have several backup plans to access the internet when setting up this system.


Dial up can be more trouble than it's worth - modern Macs expect a reasonable and constant connection. Services like software update can start at the first sign of the internet coming up and consume most or all of the throughput.


You'll want to disable almost all of the internet related features of the OS (things like Spotlight based searches, auto app updates, mail automatically fetching, browsers pre-fetching results etc). You may have to tweak a lot to make it usable.


You can consider installing 'Network link conditioner' from Xcode to see how well 56K runs…

http://nshipster.com/network-link-conditioner/

You'll need to make your own profile to simulate it.


It may work but I suspect you will need a lot of patience when any updates come along.

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