How to find the source files (in PHOTOS)?

I am unable to locate the location of the source files in Photos. I have tried the following suggestions:


"Open in Finder"---> This just opens finder with the option to open Photos (i.e. it's circular)

"Photos->File->Show Referenced File in Folder" ---> I am not able to click this under any circumstance (i.e. it's "grayed out")


Any suggestions?


TIA!
Matt


P.S.



My $0.02 worth: As a first time Mac user, I've found Photos to be a completely useless. I've had trouble keeping track of my images from day one (this might be easier the second time and I knew what I was up against). It really doesn't have any features that opening a folder with thumbnails has. Sure it creates some stupid scrapbooks etc., but does anyone really use that garbage? Looks pretty on Mac ads, but that's about it. It's redundancy only makes it onerous.

iMac (27-inch, Late 2013), OS X Yosemite (10.10.2), 1TB Fusion Drive, 32GB

Posted on May 1, 2017 11:48 AM

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May 1, 2017 12:36 PM in response to LarryHN

Larry,


When I bought this machine I dumped a large amount of photos to it. Photos "hijacked" them and I cant find their source location, hence my question. I'm not even confident the images shown are on my machine.


Don't get all butthurt over my opinions. It makes you sound nerdy and condescending. It's a garbage prigram by my estimation and you calling me insane is ridiculous.

May 1, 2017 11:54 AM in response to Meesta Feesha

Simple - you never directly access your source photos - that is not supported in Photos - either export the photo ot a desktop folder and use fro there, use the appropriate extension to do what you want or use the media browser to access your photos - direct access is not an option with Photos and if that is what you want then you need to use different photo management software where that is supported


Use of Photos is totally optional and only a crazy person would use software that they find "completely useless" - any sane person would already have started using something they find useful


LN

May 1, 2017 12:43 PM in response to Meesta Feesha

"Photos->File->Show Referenced File in Folder" ---> I am not able to click this under any circumstance (i.e. it's "grayed out")

This command will only show files in the Finder that are not managed by Photos.

When you import photos to Photos, you have two different ways to add them to the Photos Library. Photos can reference the originals in their original location and not im port them to the library, or it will copy them into the library. Only referenced files, stored outside the Photos library can be revealed in the Finder.

If you want to use the original files outside of photos, use "File > Export > Export unmodified original" to write a copy of the file to a folder in the Finder.


Sure it creates some stupid scrapbooks etc., but does anyone really use that garbage? Looks pretty on Mac ads, but that's about it. It's redundancy only makes it onerous.

Photos is a database for photos to help you organize your photos according to the attributes of photos, much more than a file manager can do. You can search for photos according to the camera that took the photo, according to the focal length, aperture, flash, the persons in the photo, the location - all attributes of a photo as opposed to a file. You can easily keep track of the relations between the different edited versions of your photos, and can always revert all edits to the original version.

So,if you want the power of a digital asset management system for photos, it is very useful. If you simply want to treat your digital photos as image files, and do not need to organize them according to photo attributes, use the Finder a few folders.

May 1, 2017 12:42 PM in response to léonie

Leonie,


Thank you for the thoughtful response. Most or all of my photos must be managed through Photos. Is there a simple way to pull them all out?


I appreciate your insight into why it's a good photo editor although I don't see a reason why anyone would sort or search by focal length. I have always grouped by shoot (1 folder per shoot) and used tags. I can't think of why I'd need more. Regardless, i'm sure somebody uses some of those features, they just seem esoteric to me...

May 1, 2017 12:51 PM in response to Meesta Feesha

Meesta Feesha wrote:


My $0.02 worth: As a first time Mac user, I've found Photos to be a completely useless. I've had trouble keeping track of my images from day one (this might be easier the second time and I knew what I was up against). It really doesn't have any features that opening a folder with thumbnails has. Sure it creates some stupid scrapbooks etc., but does anyone really use that garbage? Looks pretty on Mac ads, but that's about it. It's redundancy only makes it onerous.

I don't like Photos either, I don't use it. For many of the same reasons you don't like it. But that doesn't mean Photos is stupid or useless. Photos is perfect for everybody who does not want to have to think about managing their photos, which is most of the people on the planet actually, like my relatives. The vision, which Google and others also share with their latest photo offerings, is that you just put your photos in there and you have a one-stop shop for organizing and editing, and if sync is turned on the photos will also be automatically on your other devices. It's actually brilliant...for the users it's intended for. Obviously, it isn't intended for you or me. I prefer a much higher level of control so I organize my photos with a non-Apple application.


It is not true that Photos "doesn't have any features that opening a folder with thumbnails has." Photos has a pretty good image editor built in. If I didn't need the full power of something like Lightroom (which is what I use), Photos has some good editing features and a wide range of plug-ins for more advanced editing. Most people do not see those features at first glance, but if you were to explore and expand the hidden options in Photos you would find features like highlight/shadow recovery and noise reduction that used to be only in advanced software.


Like you, I do not like that there is no good way to find the Finder location of a photo. The reason for this is that Photos keeps image files in a "package" type of folder which is intentionally hidden. The Photos database tracks photo files in the package and if you alter or move files inside the package, the database can become corrupted. Therefore we are kept out of the package.


If you really want to find your originals, they are in Home/Pictures/Photos Library/Masters then in subfolders sorted by date. To get into Photos Library, you will have to right-click and use Show Package Contents. But again, do not modify the contents of that package.


The safer way to get your original out is select it in Photos and then File/Export Unmodified Original. Or File/Export Photo if you want the edits made in Photos.


For you and me, Photos is a pointless, underpowered piece of software. For the majority of users, it's an easy way to store photos because so much of the management drudgery is automated and they can concentrate on easy editing and easy sharing.


Luckily there is a very wide selection of photo applications for editing and/or managing available on the Mac. You don't have to use the one I use, but you should find one that meets your needs.

May 1, 2017 1:00 PM in response to Network 23

If you really want to find your originals, they are in Home/Pictures/Photos Library/Masters then in subfolders sorted by date. To get into Photos Library, you will have to right-click and use Show Package Contents. But again, do not modify the contents of that package.

To be precise, the Masters folder is sorted by the date of import, not the date the photos have been taken.

The originals are in subfolder year > month > day > time , but only, if the photos are not in iCloud. if you are using iCloud Photo Library, the original image files may be only in iCloud. Or If you used an external editor or a photo editing extension, the current original file may be in the resources/media/master/ folder instead and hard to track down.

The folder structure is not meant to be read by humans.

May 1, 2017 2:21 PM in response to Meesta Feesha

Photos does NOT hijack anything - as I explained you can

either export the photo to a desktop folder and use fro there, use the appropriate extension to do what you want or use the media browser to access your photos

It is VERY simple - Use of Photos is totally optional and


direct access is not an option with Photos and if that is what you want then you need to use different photo management software where that is supported

and yes anyone choosing to use a worthless program is insane - no sane person would make such a choice - and then complain about the choice they have made


LN

May 1, 2017 2:48 PM in response to LarryHN

I'm not concerned about 1 photo... I want ALL of my photos... So if I export all of many images to my desktop does that remove the originals (ie I only have one copy). If not, this is an unacceptable work-around as the file size of them is huge.


I didn't realize Photos was such an onerous app or I would not have used it. It seems crazy to me, to think that Apple wouldcreate a program that utilzes many files yet doesn't show their location. Simply put, it's an idiotic oversight. Sorry Larry, it's a crap program and I'm trying to figure out how to get away from it ENTIRELY.

May 1, 2017 2:58 PM in response to Network 23

Thanks, this is a fair summary. I will try what you suggest. My concern is that I want to pull out ALL my existing images and be sure that future image uploads don't get sucked into it.


I'd like to completely remove my entire collection from this machine and I am afraid I will not be able to extract all the images... Although Photos is partially to blame, I'm certainly a Mac neophyte who has spent their lifetime using a Windows file storage system (which WAS more intuitive but modern Windows is as onerous as Mac).


I still can't believe they let you search by aperature, but cant (easily) see the file name/location. Dumb

May 1, 2017 3:04 PM in response to Meesta Feesha

Third time - launch Photos and export the unmodified originals (for all Photos as anyone knows select all to export all) file menu ==> export to a desktop folder and use the as you please with any program you please


again for the third time - use of Photos is optional and no one who thinks it is a crap program should ever use it - that is simply crazy


As to the way photos works - it is brilliant but you do not understand and prefer to ***** rather than learn and that is fine - your personal choice and no one cares one way or the other - the fact that you have no idea how Photos works ad have no interest in learning does not make it a carp program - it makes you crazy for continuing to use it - simply stop using it as thousand of other have (of course millions of others do use it and ove it because they understand how to use it and how powerfule it is)


Have a nice day and enjoy continuing to beat your head against a wall for no reason at all


LN

May 2, 2017 5:05 AM in response to Meesta Feesha

For the future, you will want to prevent Photos from opening when you connect a phone, camera, or camera card:

https://havecamerawilltravel.com/photographer/prevent-photos-app-mac-osx


Also, go into your Photos app preferences, click iCloud, and turn off everything so it will not sync across devices.


Go into System Preferences, click iCloud, make sure Photos is turned off.


This will help keep Photos out of your life.

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